It would be hilarious if it wasn’t wasting 14.2 million dollars on a no bid contract that we all knew was going to fail since it was, just like everything Trump, surface level.
It’s only a matter of time before we get bleach mixed with ammonia. That’ll get it!
If you shine special lights on the algae it could cure the pool. Maybe some “Poolscumvermectin”?
Bleach…you mean the stuff that should be injected in people’s veins to get rid of covid, that stuff?
Man, bleach is just wondrous stuff. Is there nothing it cannot do!!!
I thought we were supposed to inject light to kill COVID…
At this point I’m slightly surprised he didn’t fill the pool with Ivermectin
14.2 and counting. Bleach and pump flushes arent gonna pay for themselves yknow…
True. I wonder how much he spent on having government employees go to the freaking local pool supply store and by shock at retail prices that literally did fuck all with the amount of water in the pool.
It was a grift. Who didn’t see that?
The dumb fucker pocketed most of the cash and had a couple unqualified goons pick up some shit from Home Depot.
Sure it wasnt four seasons?
I appreciate the fact they didn’t measure how much they need, they just went to the pool store and bought a bunch of residential sized containers.
Does this work like not using enough antibiotics and it will actually make the algae stronger?
I don’t think algae can evolve bleach resistance.
Bleach basically tears apart the molecules inside the cells and destroys the proteins they need to function. Antibiotics usually exploit some specific weakness in bacteria to kill them, which can be evolved around.
If you don’t use bleach enough it’ll kill the outer layers like a film and leave harder to treat algae to dominate, but the algae can’t overcome the effects of bleach. Chlorine is smaller than cellular molecules, so it’ll always permeate.
At that point they’ll need to physically scrub the whole thing or massively increase the concentration to shock it.
Source: had a pool as a kid, when we would go on vacation we’d come back to it being green. The basic chlorine wouldn’t cut it and we’d need to buy pool shock, which was just more concentrated chlorine to kill the floating stuff, then we’d have to scrub and vacuum the algae from the surfaces.
Edit: I just checked Wikipedia, they’re using 12% hydrogen peroxide. Apparently that breaks down quickly in the sun though, so it’s unlikely to do anything for the majority of the algae.
According to pool websites you need a 35% concentration, so this is going to do nothing at all at this concentration.
So basically, an actual treatment would need literal tons of peroxide applied repeatedly. The dinky bottles they’re pouring in by hand won’t do shit.
It also is known to form a film, so it won’t kill algae without scrubbing, which they’re using army rangers to do… but even though they’re scrubbing it’s still not enough concentration to kill algae and bacteria.
It’s an either make work program or complete incompetence by a pool company that’s only worked on pools with pumps and filters. Or both.
Funny thing is, the reflecting pool has pumps and filters, they’re just in disrepair (along with a bunch of other infrastructure-level stuff). Instead of actually addressing the root cause of the issue, Trump decided to give it the ol landlord special and slap a coat of paint on it.
It’s probably going to mess with the Ph and damage the pool pumps and etch the brand new “millions” of dollars of paint.
Too much %HOCl, and you make the water too acidic and hurt pumps and metal in the system.
Apparently they’re using peroxide not chlorine
But peroxide breaks down in water and sun, so they’ll need a lot of it.
Apparently they added a bubbler, but who knows if that’ll work.
Chlorine also is degraded by UV, which is why pools usually maintain some level of CYA which acts as a stabilizer to a certain degree. CYA is naturally present in granulated chlorine (dichlor) but not in liquid chlorine (bleach), which is why the “dichlor to bleach” method starts with dichlor for a while to built a reserve of CYA, before switching to bleach. Too much CYA decreases the effectiveness of chlorine, so keeping it around 30 ppm is optimal.
Writing this got me wondering what the fine folks at TroubleFreePool think about this whole debacle… https://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/lincoln-memorial-reflecting-pool.325291/
Fill it full of mercury. That’s total reflective and there’s no intelligence in DC for the fumes to damage
Lol
What’s another couple of thousands on retail products when you’ve already wasted 14.2 million.
…and then charged the Federal government another $100k.
Bleach is a cure-all. Algae, COVID, Worm brain, hand stain, sleepy meeting syndrome, etc. It’s really Windex 2.0
/s
I’m almost afraid to ask: does ivermectin treat those flesh-eating worms invading Texas?
Good for cleaning blood-stained items too.
It’s kinda like magnets… Nobody knows how it works.
I’m curious if massive amount of bleach will fade the flag blue paint job of the wading pool?
They should put some ivermectin in there for good measure.
I could have sworn there were articles circulating this morning that they were pouring hydrogen peroxide in there? Now bleach?
…that sounds like a bad idea, but I’m no pool expert.
They’re talking about the same thing. The term “Bleach” is ambiguous and mostly describes a result rather than a specific chemical. It could be talking about sodium hypochlorite, hydrogen peroxide, or sodium percarbonate (or any number of other chemicals that make things white)
The term “Bleach” is ambiguous and mostly describes a result rather than a specific chemical.
Sure, when used a verb…
When someone “bleached their hair” they used hydrogen peroxide, because that would achieve a bleaching effect
However the headline uses it as noun “dumps bleach in pool”. And I’m pretty sure that’s not correct.
The article says hydrogen peroxide, but headlines are often written by someone else and I think that’s where the confusion came from.
Bleach is the generic name for any chemical product that is used industrially or domestically to remove color from (i.e. to whiten) fabric or fiber (in a process called bleaching) or to disinfect after cleaning. It often refers specifically to a dilute solution of sodium hypochlorite, also called “liquid bleach”.
It still also sounds like it could be used as an adjective in the headline. But, yea, they’re sensationalizing things.
Yeah. I was gonna say. When I buy “bleach” (literally says it in the bottle) it’s sodium hypochlorite diluted in water. But I’d never want to burn my scalp with it trying “bleach” my hair.
It would be hilarious, ironically, if they ended up making chlorine gas because they just poured in whatever they thought would fix it.
I mean, when chlorine hypochlorite oxidizes organic material, you will make some chorine gas. However, unless they used an absolute shit ton it wouldn’t matter much outside.
I doubt they are measuring it well…wouldn’t surprise me
Hey thanks! That makes sense
Why not both
Ridiculous. The Reflecting Pool is about 10x the volume of an Olympic swimming pool. Quick math tells me they need >1000 gallons to have any sort of effect.
They put in… maybe 8 gallons?
They had several cases of peroxide, definitely more than 8 gallons, but it was only like 12% so pretty weak stuff anyway. Nowhere near what they would have needed to clear it all up. Plus it would have been super temporary and would have ended up oxygenating the water and feeding the algae.
12% hydrogen peroxide is far from weak. And it’s often used to shock pools and cleaning up organic matter.
I think we found the pool owner.
This administration really embodies the “good enough for government work” ethos.
You’d think for 14 million they could at least have a couple of those little floating pool filters.
But, in reality, a massive body of water like that is just gonna have natural things happen to it. There isn’t really a way around it unless they want to poison the local environment with chemicals.
100% certain they do not care.
Wouldn’t a small fleet of pool sand filters have a better outcome here?
Crushed glass is a very good filter media.
Im surprised they didn’t use Ivermectin. Im sure Kennedy drinks that stuff regularly
I wonder if they even thought of cleaning the pumps…
I remember about 10-15 years ago a buddy of mine was selling this pool shock stuff that was all natural, some sort of microscopic critter that liked eating algae. They tested it in a completely green pool and it turned the water clear overnight.
Guess they are too dumb to know about stuff like that.
Sounds pretty woke. Hard pass.
its somewhat appropriate that theres a cum-like stench over all of washington dc now. Wonder if thats going to have to be permanent.
