The democratic party funded by AIPAC will rather see Trump for a third time than having AOC as president.
Gotta get the red Dems out.
AOC is doing her best to keep friendly with the J-Street Israel lobby lately.
Rather than having a woman as president*
Why the down votes for this comment?
Cuz they already ran a woman for president, twice. So saying the dems don’t want a woman president is just categorically false.
Bold to assume that’s what I was saying 😂
Men don’t want a women running this country sadly
Ok sure but the question was “why is this getting downvoted?”
They don’t want to admit this country is sadly bigoted and a lot of men don’t want a woman running the country
Many believe Harris lost in 2024 because voters viewed her as too progressive
What are they talking about
It sticks out like a sore thumb. Define “many”
Does that mean “my editor and his owner?”
It’s the same "many many very important people " that trump throws in to his word salads to give the impression of authority
She grew a Cheney off her elbow.
oh that? those are just lies. :)
Skimmed other replies… What I didn’t see…
This quote is actually TRUE. What it doesn’t capture is that it was an intentional smear campaign. People on the left knew she was a center-right Democrat in a similar vein to Biden. But on the right, no matter who runs on the left, they will ALWAYS paint the Dem opponent as too progressive, and people on the right believe it.
That’s the point… Rather than cowing to that pressure and running people less and less progressive, run an ACTUAL progressive.
Maybe this is a weird semantic difference.
If she lost more people by being hawkish and right leaning than she lost by being too liberal with social policies that nominally leaned left then that means she was too far right as that lost her more votes than her left leaning policies.
American people outside of very specific online bubbles aren’t, on average, moral or smart people. The amount of “Well, I hate Trump and I voted Biden, but I wouldn’t vote for a radical socialist communist who is, you know and you know” that I’ve heard both from inside the US and, which is very surprising, outside of the US, is both deeply concerning, and made me lose all the hope in the north American continent.
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It was mostly sourced from her 2020 campaign that were fodder for commercials. Then there were stuff like her going off on Tulsi Gabbard about not being a democratic party team player that made her look too centrist and establishment for people further left. Another common fodder for commercials are stuff like how the democratic party only cares about black guys with stuff like that 10 point plan for black men becoming wealthy. That stuff would be open to everyone because it’s just marketing really, but the lack of marketing to non-black people is fodder for marketing the democratic party as not caring for any other minority group along with white people. I don’t remember that commercial people hated that was shaming men to vote Harris in some way. That was good fodder for conservatives to paint the democratic party as anti-men
I’d laugh so hard if the backlash against trump was an AOC presidency!
AOC President with Bernie as Senate Majority Leader.
Well, there is a thing called counterculture. One generation didn’t like the prevailing culture they grew up in, and so they go against it and set new values. This then leads to the following generation disliking that new culture and go against it.
Rinse and repeat.
Simpsons predicted it.
As you know, we’ve inherited quite a budget crunch from President Trump
I would start spending money in the US again
We generally need like 50 more AOC’s please.
AOCs as far as the eye can see!
A chicken in every pot, and a AOC in every political seat!
And free ponies for all!
50 more locked in votes to prevent strikes? I get that she is better then the dinosaurs, but have higher standards people!
Ok. Propose your alternative.
Butch Ware
Yeah he’s running for CA Governor but idgaf I’ll vote him for president
imagine a world where she’s the least progressive politician. That world includes her, and I’m cool with that
Don’t forget voting to arm the genocidal occupation of Palestine and constantly reaffirming its “right to defend itself”
How odd…a candidate that seems to give a shit about us is leading.
Don’t worry, some dirt will be invented, and unfounded rumours will be spread, well in time for her to lose.
She goes independent, splits the vote, President Donald Tr*mp Junior.
That’s assuming we’re not under martial law.
I have zero hope she’ll win the primary, but I’d bet money she’d win the general if she got to it. The next problem after that though is if she ends up being president in 2028, she’ll probably not get jack shit done because of the newly massively gerrymandered congress, intrinsically anti-democratic senate, and actively hostile SCOTUS.
We’d see her win and the american left would get the largest blackpill ever as she gets fucked over and gets barely anything done, is blamed, and then we get Cyber-Trump in 2032.
she’ll probably not get jack shit done because of the newly massively gerrymandered congress, intrinsically anti-democratic senate, and actively hostile SCOTUS.
Using the Trump precedence, she can ignore Congress and SCOTUS.
Shes going to need to get really creative for that to work. Trump manages to do shit without congress because of corruption, corporate backing, and being nihilistic, impulsive, and being surrounded by yes men.
AOC would be entering a hostile environment and likely wouldn’t be able to tame it, would try to be careful not to do more harm than good, and would be surrounded by well meaning but likely stifling voices of bureaucrats/proceduralists, scientists, and dissenting activists, etc. And she would try to actually listen to all of them, slowing her down and making her easy to undercut by snakes.
And she can start by having Thomas indicted for his obvious & open corruption.
I love her but I would rather to have her remain in legislative branch. She does amazing works in committees and more. She can do more for goods in legislative branch (years) than she would in executive 4-8 years plus being resisted by propaganda).
AOC vs Rubio, you’re getting someone of Hispanic heritage whether you like it or not!
lol … what is this comment?
but I’d bet money she’d win the general
What in the last 10, if not more, years of American history makes you think she’d win the general?
Most democratic voters who always vote blue don’t care whether they’re a moderate or leftwing. The ones that are more likely to refuse to vote are the lefties, and while there are some lefties who dislike AOC, most of them would be willing to vote for her and might even be excited to.
Centrists, apolitical, indie voters are all dumb as rocks and don’t pay enough attention and generally just vote on gut feeling. Thus the anti-incumbancy bias will favor any democratic candidate the shove out in 2028.
Make no mistake, the Democrats can still lose, because they’re Democrats. Its just 2028 specifically favors them enough and AOC would move them to be even more favorable, thus worth betting on.
Centrists, apolitical, indie voters are all dumb as rocks and don’t pay enough attention and generally just vote on gut feeling.
You require their votes to win any election. Your party is at 30%, just like Republicans; Independents are now 40%.
Why some Democrats think insulting the majority of the electorate will do them any favors is beyond me… where I’m from, that’s the exact opposite of smart. But I’m sure you’ll figure it all out, professor.
Why some Democrats think insulting the majority of the electorate will do them any favors is beyond me…
Because that’s what they’ve done to us for decades. It’s only wrong and stupid when we do it?
You require their votes to win any election. Your party is at 30%, just like Republicans; Independents are now 40%.
I don’t require anything. I’m not democratic leadership or a politician, I’m just providing an honest analysis.
If independents and the like are going to change their vote because someone said mean words they simply are petulantly fucking stupid and deserve whatever grifter rightwing politician they get. Like Trump for instance.
Why some Democrats think insulting the majority of the electorate will do them any favors is beyond me… where I’m from, that’s the exact opposite of smart. But I’m sure you’ll figure it all out, professor.
I’m not seeking favors. I don’t give a fuck if democrats win anymore outside maybe some minor material benefit to general well being as a citizen of a country full of morons. Eventually blue states will end up having all the economic leverage anyway, so I’m moving to one as soon as I can (or maybe even eventually out of this shithole country entirely if I can afford to)
You deserve Trump. You deserve all the bullshit he has brought. Go ahead and vote Republican, I do not give a fuck lol. Let the federal government collapse so the blue state economic powerhouses can balkanize and take the proper reigns of government away from fuckwits and fascists.
genuinely she’s the only worthwhile candidate I can imagine. I really hope she does it.
Well her or Bernie. But… you know, age and all.
I’d still vote for Bernie, but I don’t think he wants to run again. I’d also vote for Sen. Warren.
I generally don’t (think I) vote based on demographics. I am more interested in platform (primarily) and past performance (secondarily).
AOC hasn’t even said what role she’ll be putting her name in for in 2028 yet, has she?
Part of me hates to see her try. As long as she is straddling the line between serious presidential candidate and popular US House member my head cannon reasons there is still some sanity in some small part of our political institutions.
Watching her actually seriously try to get the top job and watching the DNC ruin her for it would be so depressing.
I would rather her primary schumer
That I could get behind. Probably do more good from that position as a whole as well.
Amen - the thought of another loss just because some people (even women themselves) can’t see a woman as president despite women being in positions of power everywhere. 1/3rd of this country is still living in the 1800s in their minds.
Yeah America and the DNC is not ready for her. It would be great for the country but they are too beholden to big business to let her win. They’ll block her any way they can.
Tbh, if she gets the inertia and then the DNC tries to kneecap her, I think enough voters are fed up with the DNC’s leadership at this point that it might not actually matter - that, or it’ll trigger a schism in the party that finally destroys the chokehold on power that the old guard has.
Katie Porter is a cautionary tale.
They tried to stink Obama as hard as they could and failed. this is how party politics works.
But it worked with Bernie.
Though, I do hope that even the dullocrats now see that there needs to be a popular candidate to stop this ongoing fascism converging to literal Gilead…
So maybe a different situation. It cannot end well for the US, when Trump has too long access to power or whatever spawn of hell follows…
The hope is dieing at last.
Bernie 2.0 incoming, who’s ready for Gavin Newsom to be president?
Nate Silver endorsed this polling in 2024? That makes me trust it LESS not more 😭
She’s the only one I’m voting for. Don’t be afraid to vote for her, many others will, your vote will not be wasted.
I think she actually has a good chance. She would get a pretty good turnout from energized progressives, but she would also get the gooner votes. How could a Republican beat that?
How could a Republican beat that?
Maybe the same way they ran a felon rapist pedophile insurrectionist low IQ loud mouth loser who won against female candidates…twice.
She’s the only one I’m voting for.
Are you saying that if she doesn’t make it to the general, you’re not voting in the general?
Cuz that makes you garbage if so.
Yea, but it doesn’t make me garbage, it makes the system garbage. Electing a true progressive in 2028 is our last chance to avoid a revolution.
Good, carry on AOC!
Fingers crossed that this won’t turn into a Bernie situation. If we get past the primaries, fingers crossed this won’t turn into a Obama/Fetterman situation.
How?
