I was about to complain yet again “that’s not how it works”, but then I looked up the text again and this is explicitly allowed. Congress can set up a commission that basically takes the place of the Cabinet for 25th Amendment purposes. So now all this talk of the 25th amendment makes a bit more sense to me.
They still need a 2/3 margin in both houses even after the commission makes their determination, because the idiot is guaranteed to contest it. But maybe there is some truth to the idea that Republicans won’t vote to impeach but would vote to declare him incompetent, based on his dumb tweets
This seems like more copium and wishful thinking but it is probably more likely, but still not likely.
Yeah far easier to impeach, which requires a simple majority in the House and 2/3rds of the Senate.
The 25th Amendment is a higher bar, since it requires 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.
That’s the issue when you have a Republican controlled Congress. They’ll never turn on the party so you’re asking them to hold themselves accountable.
Oh great another 2 year circus side show.
A commission to assess?
Ffs.
Nuke us from space.
Concepts of a plan.
If we should be nuked from space for anything, it’s Trump’s insanity, not calling it out. Yesterday people complained that Democrats don’t even put up any opposition. Now we’re complaining when they begin the process of removing him from office. 🤷♂️
They’re not in the process of removing him from office.
We deserve it because we have let it go on this long.
And if the Democrats were serious they would impeech him, not start a committee to evaluate. What the Democrats have done is begun to waste more time.
You know they have impeached him twice already, right?
Has anyone noticed that the “both sides are the same so don’t bother voting” crowd have tripled efforts since we neared another important election time frame, funny how that happens.
Especially pitching that in the face of Hungary’s recent transition.
We are all Hungary; time to eat the rich.
His craziness needs to stay in until December.
I hear ya, but nobody is going to willingly elect JD Vance. It’s better to remove Pedonald as quickly as possible imho
Congress has the power to create a commission to exercise the power to remove a mentally unfit president from office. The biggest worry is that this would inevitably be politicized. I say, let it happen! Let it be political. Let’s have an openly political “mental health commission” that will rule that being a member of the opposite political party is a mental illness. Hell, let it become a formality. It will simply be expected that the president will be removed from office after a change in Congressional control. Whenever a change in control of Congress happens, the new Congressional leadership will stuff it with political ideologues. And they’ll inevitably rule a president of the opposing party to be mentally unfit. Eventually it just becomes a formality, no one even considers it unusual. We just expect the presidency to be able to flip every two years. And we giggle that it has to be done by formally declaring the previous guy to be crazy. I think this would be a good idea.
Why? Because this would effectively transform the US into a Parliamentary democracy. A simple majority in both houses of Congress would be enough to install a new president. They effectively become a Prime Minister at that point. Parliamentary democracies have proven much more resilient to strong-man dictatorial takeover. It’s not as perfect a solution as amending the constitution to formally remove the office of president entirely, but it would be a decent hack to do something similar. And going to a Parliamentary system isn’t a magic cure-all, but it does have quite a bit of merit. As a plus, we would have the bonus of being “that nation that regularly declares its former leaders legally crazy.” And you know what? I think that works well with America’s energy.
I thought the benefits of parliamentary systems come from the fact that that they’re more proportional. They have a balance of power going on in the fact that you can win a seat from being popular in your district, but you can also win from being popular in your party, which gives a chance to minority parties that are spread thin across the country.
Winning a district directly gives you those “maverick” politicians that don’t fit into the major parties but they reflect the unique local politics. But those people can be corruptly beholden to their local industries. Winning off the party list results in members who represent their parties.
Deliciously written and insightful. Thank you!
Not bad in theory but fix gerrymandering and apportionment first
Jesus Christ just go for impeachment. If you can 25th, you can impeach. What a waste of time.
Is impeachment much better? He’s been impeached twice already, what did that accomplish?
That’s because they didnt get the 2/3 in the Senate they needed to remove him. But they need that 2/3 to 25th him… So yeah.
Plus if they 25th he can just write a letter saying he is competent and resume being president whenever he wants.
they may get 2/3 if those Republicans on the fence feel like they have a good excuse to throw him under the bus. Their insane base might still vote for them if they say “we had to he was really sick” instead of “we had to he’s breaking things you don’t give a fuck about”
It’s politics.
Claiming Trump is crazy is much more vulnerable to rebuttals that the accusers are political and suffer from “Trump Derangement Syndrome”. Some of the shittiest politics comes from chopping up video clips to make people look crazy or stupid. Or just reading transcripts. Every transcript of extemporaneous speech makes the speaker sound stupid. That’s just how it natural speech works and the leeway you have in performing a transcript.
Impeachment puts the focus on the crimes he’s committing and the actual damage he’s doing.
“We are going to file a request to create a vote in order to create a commission, that can create a petition to allow us to file the article to vote on whether or not we can impeach the seditious, blackmailed. child raping, human trafficker that sold out our country”.
The rules are pretty hilarious at this point.
They REALLY WANT HIM GONE GUYS
I haven’t seen this on Reddit yet. It’s interesting to compare what’s posted on lemmy and reddid.
“We finally got him!” - The same people saying this 10 years ago.
Surely the Mueller report will save us
Hilarious how everyone here complains they take the (slow) bureaucratic route.
This is a political party and that’s how they can act.
If you want fast results, take it to the streets. Kicking him out outside of bureaucratic procedures is everyone’s responsibility, not specifically the elected parties
Does the 25th also work to remove Schumer and Jeffries from office?
He’s already told you he’s taken mental tests and done well, like Mensa level well, like they thought he cheated but he didn’t well. What more could you possibly want and how the fuck do you think you are going to get it? A move like this doesn’t work when you don’t have the cards, and you don’t have the cards dems.
Wow. What an uphill battle the Democrats have before them. How will they EVER be able to prove how unfit for office Trump is? Wow. A commission!
What a colossal f*cking waste of time. Just 25th him, already. You’ve got every damn day Trump’s been in office for the last 10 years as evidence. Quit jerking off and do your jobs.
… nothing is ever good for people like you
People like you are easily placated by insincere token gestures.
No, I just see the bigger picture and understand how things actually work instead or some fantasy where Dems have power
The fantasy is believing anyone’s vote will be changed by a commission, oh great big picture understander.
Its worked before…
What do you mean?
Commissions expose truth, people pay attention, votes can change
I just see the bigger picture
how things actually work
some fantasy where Dems have power
S.1071 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2026
On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: 312 - 112 (Roll no. 320)
Motion to proceed to consideration of the House message to accompany S. 1071 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 75 - 22
Senate agreed to the House amendment to S. 1071 by Yea-Nay Vote. 77 - 20
The majority of Dems are complicit - occasionally even enthusiastic - for these atrocities.
Your hijacking the conversation and changing the context, 25th amendment is the topic
All you are doing is spamming
Wasting more funds and time. Gear up for the elections, select the proper candidates who are younger and healthier, get rid of the old shitbags and re-take the executive, administrative and judicial branches. Then prosecute the fuck out of every corrupt MAGA turd. If you clowns let them get away with it again, shame on you.
