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So maybe a hundredth of what’s needed to invade Iran?
holy shit the casualties are going to be terrible
The arrival of 2,500 Marines and another 2,500 sailors is keeping the number of American troops in the Mideast region at over 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual
The U.S.-led coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003 was close to 250,000 at the beginning.
They are going to invade Iran, and play up every single death as a way to blame the Dems and every citizen for not supporting Trump. Now its a real war and “oopsie doopsie no can do elections”
This is an important insight. People who support war generally harden their stance once their soldiers begin to fall. It also becomes much easier to guilt and shame others for not supporting the war, framing it as having let those soldiers die in vain. It’s an important instrument in the fascist/imperialist toolkit for stamping out dissent.
And the progressives on here are going to blame democrats for not having more votes to stop this guy and say we need to vote 3rd part to keep his power unchecked.
lol who hurt you?
Progressives are pushing to change local voting systems from FPTP to RCV or Score/Approval/other so that Americans aren’t forced into a vote for the least bad candidate situation. Progressives are pushing progressive primary candidates to pull the whole party to the left, but in the primary voting D.
In the meantime in this current system, always Democrats unless they’re going to win easily, then you can vote your conscience.
Oh, just conversations I’ve had on here with “progressives”
i just dismiss those as trolls trying to wind me up (usually quite successfully, i exist in a state of NEEDS MORE COFFEE). when i was young and stupid and immature (and i had hair!), like in high school my conservative friends and i jokingly campaigned for the green party. we didn’t actually campaign, we just had some buttons on our backpacks. we were too young to vote and all. so like, now those high school trolls are online and they used to be me and know how to push my metaphorical buttons. but i used to be them (and tried to grow out of it, and hope i did) so i kind of understand them a little? does that make sense?
edit: that came out of my mind of course it doesn’t make sense
The democrats are as compromised by israel as the republicans are. Keep your eye on the ball.
on Israel’s behalf, Biden ran the US government on the largest part of the genocide and then starvation of innocent Palestinians and leveling of their cities. Those mass murders and ethnic cleansings were done with American funding and diplomatic support. Those are just facts. They arent up for debate.
So get off your ridiculous high horse and stand down in the mud with the rest of us. You’re filthy.
You’re filthy.
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Anyway, democrats overall, yes. Unlike republicans, though, there are democrats that are doing the right thing. And those will not succeed so long as republicans keep winning.
The minority Republicans were able to interfere with a lot of what Biden tried to do, yet the minority Democrat’s are unable to interfere with Trump’s bullshit?
Why shouldn’t I be frustrated at that?
Republicans were interfering with a president that was playing by the rules. And he was still able to get a lot more done than he is given credit for.
Trump has thrown all rules out the window. At this point the only thing they can effectively do to stop him is impeach him and remove him from office.
No, we’re going to blame you for your desperation to appear non-threatening and say you need to start showing up armed.
They’ve chosen to be complicit.
Americans fight for zionists. Zionist first!
Setting the stage for nuking Iran, because a ‘conventional war’ can’t be won?
Can we please turn back time some thirty years?WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG?
I’ve been to concerts with well over twice that many people in the crowd
Just jumping in here before the bags start shipping back to say fuck every single one of these service people. All of them chose to go. All of them chose to serve this lying, fascist government and do the bidding of their corporate patrons. All of them signed up to bomb children. All of them deserve the consequences. Have fun shitting in a bag the rest of your life assholes.
Most of them are probably 18 years old, poorly educated, and raised on Fox News. They’re just pawns that have no idea what’s going on.
Congress on the other hand, knows exactly what they’re doing, and has no moral qualms.
You’re right, but the 18 year olds are probably educated on As
smeinkampfmongold and that is even worse.
It’s the troops coming home from Vietnam being spit on and called baby killers again.
And that was the high point for many, as they’d end up addicted and living on the streets shortly thereafter.
Don’t blame soldiers. Blame their government.
Absolutely blame governments. But that doesn’t absolve soldiers from responsibility in a volunteer force. Absolutely blame soldiers for their own misdeeds.
This notion that our service people are somehow these fragile, perfect little angels that deserve nothing but effusive worship is nonsense, and part of how the government enforces its awful, self-serving corruption.
Fuck the soldiers, every single one of them. They signed up to do evil, they deserve to suffer the consequences. Can’t wait to ridicule them when a few of them get back.
You have zero understanding of the military and it shows.
Tell that to the 2 million dead in Iraq. Tell that to the people who suffered in Abu Grhaib. To the little boys who were forced to have sex with their moms, and to the dads who were forced to sodomize their sons and daughters. To the men forced to hold weights with the threat of death, only to have their arms snap in half due to the pressure. To those who were forced to eat their own fecal matter. America, and its military are the greatest evil the modern world has ever known.
Wtf are you even talking about? You are just saying things. That isn’t a response.
They were listing some of the atrocities and crimes commited by the US military. It’s an odd response to what you said I’ll give you. But I believe the point they were trying to make is that you don’t need to understand the finer points of the military to see the horrors it inflicts.
Don’t blame soldiers. Blame their government.
I’ll also blame the ranking officers.
The grunt soldiers may not have the perspective to see how illegal this is, but the officers should.
Enough of the blame game, can we just end the war?
The excursiom that was aleeady won that was actually a forever war? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!
probably fewer soon
I’ve seen this one before, try Paramount+ or something
Didn’t he declare victory weeks ago? I’m confused.
As per NYT accounting, there is 5000 cannon fodder. The rest are Naval/air/support. Which other than naval staying far enough away, is also cannon fodder.
Time to put the American soldiers’s sacrifices on israel’s altar to their violent genocidal god. Sorry to the soldiers and their families.
