The winning message for a Democrat:
I will be your revenge. I will burn the Republican’s criminal empire to the ground. It won’t undo their crimes, but I will make them suffer.
If you fucks don’t do everything you can to overwhelm the midterms to primary every incumbent democrat, you better not complain when President Newsom rolls back 20% of Trump’s policies and decides that some trans people can be released from some of the camps.
Shapiro is bought and paid for by Israel. He cant possibly win an election the presidency, for starters, and even if he could win he’d be working for a country thats not ours, that wants America isolated from its military allies so it can act unconstrained by consensus. Shapiro would be the death of the democratic party for good.
To add to his lack of qualifications, he’s new to politics. He’s in his first term as a governor. He doesnt even know how national politics works, and he hasnt championed anything notable. He got a budget that added school breakfasts, and increased funding for state police. And thats about it. Thats not a leader for our times. Its insulting to see his name brought up as a candidate, yet again.
Quaint of you to think we’ll have one. Assuming we do get one they don’t pull the typical BS of sweeping republican wrongdoings under the rug, kumbaya, can’t we just move forward and let the republicans block all our appointments as usual?
It’s going to take breaking the government and hitting a reset button, armoring it against corruption and billionaires, completely redoing how candidacy, campaigning, lobbying, how wealth and money work in society, and many, many other things work. It literally cannot be a Democrat (or a republican) because no democrat is capable of breaking and rebuilding the system. They are too beholden to party and money.
Anyone that runs on executing the current administration for treason gets my vote
Articles and posts like this truly reveal the oblivious bubble people live in where they still haven’t come to terms how much their federal government has been corroded.
Shapiro is Israeli intelligence and he served in the IDF. I can’t read the article its behind a paywall
The party caved on asking ICE to not wear masks.
There needs to be a revolution within the Democratic party, today. Not in a week or a month, today. We’re not able to oppose fascism because the fascists are fucking clever or strong or smart: We’re not able to oppose fascism because the Democratic leadership dont’ want to.
If we don’t replace Schumers and Jeffereies, its cooked. It wont matter. No circle jerking about November going to help. We need war-time leadership in the DNC now. Alas, Babylon. They need to start acting like a government in absentia, because they already are one.
I tried calling my rep. Automatically forwarded straight to a full mailbox. I’m not a major donor, so I guess I can just shout into the void.
The monied class, the one that actually drives policy, has a direct number
Did you try tweeting your rep? That seems to be the only way to get their attention these days.
Not sure what the article says because, paywall. But, given the thumbnail, I just want to make sure people understand that Shapiro represents the entire opposite of Democrats actually doing anything about fascism. Shapiro is a fascist collaborator, both in terms of his work for Israel, and domestic policy. He’s essentially a Republican, that is to say, a fascist.
Josh Shapiro lol
I can’t get over the naive assumption that there will be a “next democratic president” before shit truly hits the fan.
Well maybe not in this life, but someday there will be a non right wing leader of the American states again, or a portion of them anyway. We might as well start planning for that now rather than waiting.
I wish I could be optimistic enough about that to plan…
Looking Forward, Not Backward was the original sin of the Obama administration.
Precisely. We were all hyped up hoping for change, and this would have been a massive one. Instead we got 8 more years of war, RomneyCare with no public option, and continued expansion of executive overreach including extrajudicial killings. Such a disappointing continuation of the status quo, and there are blue maga out there who pretend like it was the greatest presidency of our lifetimes for some reason.
there are blue maga out there who pretend like it was the greatest presidency of our lifetimes for some reason.
As a older millennial, I think it actually was the greatest presidency of my lifetime… As fucked as that is. Maybe Clinton was better but I was too young to have been paying attention.
If clinton testifies that trump gave him a blowjob, he will go down as one of the best-- simply for saving whats left of the “republic”. If he fails to do that he’s a mixed bag, and a bit of a failure.
And if you’re expecting that things would change with just a President then you’re one of the George Carlin Americans too.
Dude, I’m not saying that Obama was a progressive stalwart but if you’re going to complain about RomenyCare+ being the only option without a public option then you need to read up on how that was thwarted by moderate Democrats. You want there to not be a repeat then you’ve got to get your ass up and moving in the primaries to get these “moderate” neoliberal conservatives out of the party.
Ain’t no point in a merciless Progressive President if you’ve got your party stabbing you in the back every chance they get.
I wish Carlin were still alive, but no I don’t expect one person to be able to move a mountain. It takes a whole admin to do that. Many of whom the president can appoint, but still.
I know all about what happened with RomneyCare. Biden gave away the public option before they even started negotiating. He literally just gave it away like the absolute turd that he is.
I also agree with voting vociferously in the primaries, but my point is that maybe taking over the Dems is a lost cause and more trouble than it’s worth. Just let them become the corporate party with Repugs, and form a new progressive/populist party instead. It would be a whole lot easier to build from the ground up.
Yeah… if Obama isn’t the greatest president of my lifetime (I was born during Reagan), then who was?
touché
Were you expecting a black man, surrounded by a historical establishment he had to fight his way into, to just get up ended cause he wanted to? He was badgered from all fronts, included by fools who talk like you.
I hoped for change, wanted him to be better, but was proven wrong. Obama was yet another milquetoast democrat.
Yeah… One of the Obama quotes that sums him up pretty well is, “Tell me what we’re doing and I’ll sell it”.
BUT, because of this countries history and a lot of undealt with racism and the path of pure chaos that always springs up from that, it was important for us all to have a black president and it was important that he do well. And Obama did well above average, even if I wanted a lot more out of him, after he strung us along with “Hope and Change”. Obamacare alone sealed his legacy. His term was an important step toward universal civil rights. I dont know about you, but I Like civil rights and human rights for all. Its one of the #1 things I care about. The universality of rights is important no matter who you are–even to your avwerage white male right winger-- equal protection is something they need and should value. I am a financially OK old white guy myself, so this is not some sort self serving statement.
We all need everyone in the US to do well because a country where all have enough is a significantly better, safer, happier, brighter place to live, and also just a better place to be a human being in. America needs to be a country that makes sure its poor have “enough” rather than a country fixated on if poor people have “too much”. We’ve become a shittier people over the course of my lifetime and there needs to be a change. Its got to start with getting rid of centrist dems and replacing them with people who care about the issues of the voters, even the poor ones, and who pledge to fight for human and civil rights for all-- that includes rejecting AIPAC completely. Then we corral the republicans and put them in a legal box they cant wiggle out of. To create that box we need to get civil and human rights going again as a key part of who we are.
Never enough with y’all considering context. Y’all just want another cis white het with perfect views. He did a lot with what he was given.
Not sure who you’re referring to here, I wanted the first black president to represent a meaningful departure from the status quo. Of course, that was how Obama attained such success so rapidly, by staunchly defending it. Which leads us back to the original post in this thread - he wasn’t willing to “look backward” and prosecute the egregious crimes of his predecessors. Just “looked forward” to bailing out Wall Street, and personally ensuring they got extra money for executive bonuses.
Still, I’m curious to know more about your perspective. What are some of the things you view as Obama’s greatest accomplishments? Do you wish he had done anything differently or better?
Yeah, this unfortunately. Obama was overated
I dunno. Compared to every other president we’ve had since Kennedy, he’s about the best we’ve ever had for about a generation. I mean, he did get Osama. I mean, yeah, he wasn’t a “get us to the moon” or a “defeating Hitler” president, but he was good for what he accomplished. Yeah, ObamaCare should have been better, but compare it with the market beforehand: hhhuuugggeee Medicaid expansion, coverage for pre-existing conditions, and a simple, easy-to-use market. It could have been Medicare for All, yes. But Republicans, Big Donors, and the corporate Dems would never have allowed it.
The 28th Amendment better be that the name Donald J Trump or Trump shall be striken from existing and never to appear on any public and government buildings and facilities hereafter.
Add coinage to that list.
So Democrats win try to unfuck everything Republicans fucked up. And next election Republicans win and fuck everything up again. This is like one step forward two steps back kind of politics. Hard to move forward or reach any kind of progress like that.
Hence the Democrats need to take up the mantle of revenge.
We didn’t create the system. If you delete the one step forward all you’ll get is two steps back.
Democrats will not fix anything republicans did and will continue destroying american lives at slower pace and then republicans win again and accelerate again and the cycle continue
Never underestimate a Democrat’s ability to snatch defeat right out of the jaws of victory.
I’m not holding my breath for actual reform… we need a Democrat to win not because of what they’ll bring to the table, but to keep the Nazis off of it long enough to sift through the ashes of our nation and start piecing together the bits that still function after Trump.
That’s more of a bandaid than anything else… what we actually need is things like ranked choice voting, term limits, and guillotines.
The cancer needs to be cut out.
That would require white liberals to take a risk or sacrifice their comfort. Won’t happen.








