Independent Senator Bernie Sanders floated Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a potential presidential candidate in the 2028 elections, saying that even though it’s “her decision to make,” she is a “very, very good politician.”

Speaking to Axios, Sanders said that he has been “out on the streets with her” and noticed how she responds when people come up to her. “It’s so incredibly genuine and open.”

Ocasio-Cortez is seemingly positioning herself to run for higher office, whether it is challenging Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for his seat or to make a run for president.

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    I would like to say: clinton didn’t lose because she’s a woman, she lost because she’s a sleazeball. harris didn’t lose because she’s a woman, she lost because she was courting the right wing for some reason. AOC can win because she’s not a sleazy right winging neolib. I’d vote for her for president.

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      I’m not saying you’re wrong, but don’t underestimate the role of misogyny. A commentator on a podcast i listen to was in the US in the run-up to the last election and they said that something they heard over and over again in the people they talked to was variations on “i hate Trump and everything he stands for, but i couldn’t trust the country to a woman”

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      Both Harris and Clinton position themselves as more of the status quo. Trump both time always positions himself as an outsider who taps into to racism and white rage. The only time you can win off a status quo type deal if the Dem admin was doing amazing during when they had power.

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        Yea, republicans piss on you and say it’s that guy, Dems piss on you and say it’s raining.

        Atleast piss in my mouth and we’ll all be happy

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    I really hate to say this, but there’s no way a woman will win in 2028 (if an election even happens).

    The vast centrist vote will go towards stability and a return to the ‘values’ they think have been lost.

    It sucks a lot, but the only viable choice will be a white man. I hate this, but it’s true.

    Walz is probably the most politically viable choice. Does that suck? Yeah. But pragmatically, it’s just true.

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        I get it. The truth hurts, especially right now when what we desperately need is hope.

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      I really hate to say this

      Come on, do you really think that though? gender is an issue to be factored in, but considering it the primary factor is a level of cynicism thats effectively bordering on hopelessness. Maybe you earned that cynicism, I get that, being a a real american lefty is hard lately. How about we stand behind someone who inspires? Who seems to care about the issues that affect the constituents? who at least seems to not be one of the bought and paid for AIPAC drones?
      But you’d ponder running some asshat zionist like walz or shaprio instead, simply because they have a pecker and no tits? I dont think america is so far gone that they would pass up an inspirational human for a male human. And if we are, then its not worth fighting for anyway. If we are that far gone then its time for all of us to run.

      Reminds me of a quote from the green mile movie.
      “I’m rightly tired of the pain I hear and feel, boss. I’m tired of bein on the road, lonely as a robin in the rain. Not never havin no buddy to go on with or tell me where we’s comin from or goin to or why. I’m tired of people bein ugly to each other. It feels like pieces of glass in my head. I’m tired of all the times I’ve wanted to help and couldn’t. I’m tired of bein in the dark. Mostly it’s the pain. There’s too much. If I could end it, I would. But I can’t.”

      Gotta keep fighting till its time to run, and then keep fighting after that, or we’ll be a disappointment to our kids.

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          well. shit. If we cant unite behind a good candidate because we think an asshat consolation candidate must win, I dont know how we win, because the asshat candidates always sell us out in the end. It the DNC way of things.

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    Support for what ever she decides is next, although I feel like the senate would be a better step. However the democrats dont really have a face to back that isnt some centerist that thinks its ok to play with the bully after they have taken your lunch money or someone that is older than Wonder Bread ™.

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    As a fucked up two-party system, the US cant really have female presidents. The candidate needs to round up new voters while retaining the old voters. A female candidate is sure to lose a lot of votes, just because she’s female and way too many idiots are uncomfortable with a woman in charge of something.

    While I’d love to see AOC as president, I think the democrats badly need to find a male to take the role as candidate.

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    The thing about AOC is that she can bring in the millennials which far out weigh the normal voting demographic.

    Her first executive order should be to nullify all executive orders Donald Trump ever made.

    Remove that man from history make everyone forget his name.

    You know, kind of what happened with Caligula.

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    A female president of a normal age would be an amazing change for the US. Why does it always have to be geriatric males?

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      America is incredibly sexist. And racist.

      As much as I would love for her to change things up, the reality is America isn’t ready to elect a woman. She simply won’t win. We need a male candidate, especially against the current testosterone driven gop. A woman simply won’t convert vites from gop to democratic, it just won’t happen.

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    I think that plenty of people who voted for Trump would be fine voting for a woman president as long as she’s strongly advocating change

    These people just know that things aren’t great, they don’t know whose fault it was or what policies caused it. So they vote for the person who says they’ll change the most.

    The largest deciding factor stated by people after voting was the economy. People remembered that there was a lot of inflation under Biden, and didn’t want to keep similar policies. Of course, we know that Trump’s first term had a pretty large influence on the state of the economy under Biden, and Biden’s policies probably didn’t hurt the economy. But the average voter is not that informed.

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      I think that plenty of people who voted for Trump would be fine voting for a woman president

      I’m sorry, but this is based on what, exactly? I know you didn’t base it on historical data. Trump won against Hillary Clinton, a woman, lost against Joe Biden, a man, then won against Kamala Harris, a woman.

      2016 turnout for Clinton/Trump: 128,837,949

      2020 turnout for Biden/Trump: 155,507,476

      2024 turnout for Harris/Trump: 152,319,643

      3,187,833 fewer people turned out for the Harris/Trump election.

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        That’s two data points influenced by countless other factors. Like the economy, which I mentioned.

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    Because it worked out so well the last two times the democrats tried to elect a female president.

    Clinton lost to Trump.

    Harris lost to Trump.

    So what chance would AOC have against a more qualified republican candidate? And I say that with the assumption than anyone who isn’t a Trump is by default, a more qualified candidate.

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      Hilary was a terrible person yet she still won the popular vote. Harris is such a dumb politicians who can’t answer a single question correctly

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    I don’t know if AOC is the right pick but I do know she’s closer to the target than Gavin Newsom. Nothing against him, but the Democratic party needs a candidate that can inspire people.

    But that’s getting ahead of things. First the american people need to primary ~50% of sitting democrats in the midterms.

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    Non an american but I feel like US needs a revolutionary candidate to come back from Trump. It has to be someone strong enough to put nazis back into their place.

    It’s still early to talk about this though right? From what I understand the upcoming midterms will shape everything else.

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    She’s a brilliant person, but the US has repeatedly shown it’s still too misogynistic to elect a woman president.

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      I don’t think so. Clinton was dislikably arrogant and put very little policy forward. Kamala didn’t have the arrogant of Clinton but still in classic Democratic fashion did very little in the way of policy put forward to earn people’s votes.

      The problem isn’t women. It’s shire campaigns and I think people let the DNC off the hook too much. They’re only effective when taking out decent people like Sanders.

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      It might be the case. But look at the candidates we’ve had that are women. They’re fucking awful. Hillary has politics that are probably to the right of Nixon, Jill Stein is clearly a Russian operative, and Kamala is a fucking disingenuous cop. So yeah, this country has a shit electorate, but the candidates have done nothing to show me that we absolutely wouldn’t vote for a woman candidate.

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      Exactly. A woman has 0% chance of winning in the next few cycles. That’s just reality. I love AOC, and I would vote for her in the general, but she would lose.

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    I’m not sure she has the thunder she had in 2018. BUT If she calls for a general strike in the next 6 weeks, and then starts to be the lead organizer of said strike, she’s my gal. I really hope she learns from Bernie in specifically how he’s organized his national campaigns.

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      2018 was different I don’t blame her for being more outspoken then. I agree with the other commentor that she should run for senate. She’ make an excellent senate majority leader. If there’s still no female president by 2036 she’d probably be a layup at that point.

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        I don’t share the view that sexism is what is blocking a female president in the US; I think being an inauthentic corporate sellout is what has, so far, blocked a female president in the US. So that doesn’t factor in for me.

        2028, should there be an election, is 100% in play for AOC.

        And that actually is my biggest concern with AOC. Pelosi worked hard, from 2018-2020 to ice the FUCK out of AOC. And AOC stayed strong and outspoken. In fact, AOC in some ways was representing real leadership. When AOC ran again, won again, Pelosi instead of resisting, worked to bring her into the fold. And the strength of AOC’s rhetoric has diminished substantially. And AOC has become less and less outspoken and willing to target Democrats with criticism and become more and more of a “team player”. Now I’m not saying AOC is cooked, but she’s definitely on the stove.

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    AOC supports Israel. We cannot have pro-Israel candidates. If AOC is the candidate, I’m not voting for her.

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      There’s exactly 0 politicians opposing Israel in all of USA. Which one do you think should run for president?

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        That’s what leftists want. There is zero unity on the left. I get mobbed on here for saying I’ll vote as far left as I can before I’m forced to vote centrist. It’s a reality. We’ve faced that reality three cycles in a row now. The right has nothing but unity. I’ll vote for a leftist female as far as I can. Will the rest of the left?