Considering his connections to Peter Thiel I’m not so sure about that. But what matters is that he won’t be able to wield the cult of personality that has formed around Trump the way Trump can.
He’s very unlikable though imo. He doesn’t have the charisma trump has (not genuine charisma, but like an arrogant bullying charisma that MAGA is attracted to). Hopefully this alone would work against him.
To be fair, though, Trump is deeply unlikable for many people. I’ve had almost a physical reaction to hearing him speak or seeing him since his debates against Hillary. He’s always seemed gross and slimy to me.
In other words, just because you and I see JD as unlikable doesn’t mean that MAGA will also find him unlikable. In fact, Vance’s approval rating among republicans is 89% favorable while among democrats it is 3% favorable as of the beginning of August.
This, this, this! Trump attracts people in a unique way, the same way that Hitler attracted people. Vance doesn’t have that charisma. His ascension would fracture the party. There’s folks who are willing to buck him, not Trump. It is the best shot we have at normalcy.
I hope you are right, but I don’t know MAGA won’t latch onto a new cult of personality just as easily. The right wing info bubble is a well oiled consent machine and they know how to push the right cultural buttons. Vance is better spoken and has gained a lot of MAGA love under Trump. I worry if Trump dies before he erodes his support too far, it will solidify MAGA under a better equipped leader.
I see people keep saying this but why does it even matter anymore? They already have the power, they already tested camps, they already have troops deployed, he can do what he wants and still control the narrative like they are now
I don’t discount that argument, but my hope/expectation is without the base and therefore without undying tacit support from congress, the threat posed by Vance isn’t as much as a live Trump.
JD is Peter Thiel’s errand boy and Thiel wants to collapse of nation states and social programs. His goal is corporate network states with the rich living completely removed from regulations on their power in any way. JD Vance may not be as erratic but he is just as dangerous.
Fingers crossed! JD will not be as batshit. He wants to keep the job and not get bounced from the top spot next election.
Considering his connections to Peter Thiel I’m not so sure about that. But what matters is that he won’t be able to wield the cult of personality that has formed around Trump the way Trump can.
Exactly.
JD is scary due to the thiel connection.
He’s very unlikable though imo. He doesn’t have the charisma trump has (not genuine charisma, but like an arrogant bullying charisma that MAGA is attracted to). Hopefully this alone would work against him.
He basically radiates the Jeb Bush please clap awkwardness at all times.
Some people, mostly jokingly, think that the timeline where Jeb Bush got elected president is the best timeline. JD Vance’s would be the worst.
To be fair, though, Trump is deeply unlikable for many people. I’ve had almost a physical reaction to hearing him speak or seeing him since his debates against Hillary. He’s always seemed gross and slimy to me.
In other words, just because you and I see JD as unlikable doesn’t mean that MAGA will also find him unlikable. In fact, Vance’s approval rating among republicans is 89% favorable while among democrats it is 3% favorable as of the beginning of August.
Yeah well he also doesn’t have the full responsibility of this admins actions either.
Once he’s the lightning rod for this unpopular crap he’ll have nowhere to hide.
This, this, this! Trump attracts people in a unique way, the same way that Hitler attracted people. Vance doesn’t have that charisma. His ascension would fracture the party. There’s folks who are willing to buck him, not Trump. It is the best shot we have at normalcy.
I hope you are right, but I don’t know MAGA won’t latch onto a new cult of personality just as easily. The right wing info bubble is a well oiled consent machine and they know how to push the right cultural buttons. Vance is better spoken and has gained a lot of MAGA love under Trump. I worry if Trump dies before he erodes his support too far, it will solidify MAGA under a better equipped leader.
I see people keep saying this but why does it even matter anymore? They already have the power, they already tested camps, they already have troops deployed, he can do what he wants and still control the narrative like they are now
He’s still batshit, just in a better-tailored suit.
The good news is the MAGA crowd don’t have fanatical loyalty to him.
What?
JD and his wife were groomed to be the Republican version of the Clinton’s…
They were literally set up by the “Tiger Mom” who’s an ivy league law professor, then the wife was given SC clerkships.
They are 1000x more dangerous than trump, in no small part because they won’t be as blatant.
I don’t discount that argument, but my hope/expectation is without the base and therefore without undying tacit support from congress, the threat posed by Vance isn’t as much as a live Trump.
A puppet cannot have qualities such as being more or less batshit.
Do not mistake the intelligence of the puppeteer as belonging to the homunculus itself.
JD is Peter Thiel’s errand boy and Thiel wants to collapse of nation states and social programs. His goal is corporate network states with the rich living completely removed from regulations on their power in any way. JD Vance may not be as erratic but he is just as dangerous.
Ahahahahaha! You guys are fukt. JD is a bigger puppet than Strumpf. And a whole lot less likeable if that’s at all possible?!