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The poll indicates support for the more aggressive position Newsom has taken in standing up to Donald Trump, particularly over a plan by Republicans in Texas to redraw their state’s congressional seat map in the hopes of winning more seats in midterm elections next year.
The battle to become the 2028 presidential election candidate will likely set the new direction for the Democratic Party as it struggles with net favorability at what one recent poll showed to be a three-year low. Newsom has not formally announced his candidacy.
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He’s not actually doing anything, and less than six months ago he was sucking up to Alex Jones and Charlie Kirk and telling them he agrees with them and the Dems need to move to the right on “social issues” like the existence of LGBT and racism.
Newsom is who the billionaires want, he’d be the worst possible pick for anyone else.
God I’ve hated watching the way that this shitshow has turned Newsom into the Dem’s new darling rising star. He’s just more of the same neoliberal shit that got us here in the first place.
Still, though, I’ll acknowledge that he’s at least publicly fighting back, and the more voices that we have screaming “this isn’t normal, this isn’t okay,” the better imo. I think he’d be a shit president, but in comparison to the situation we have going on now? He’d be a fucking dream.
I’ll acknowledge that he’s at least publicly fighting back
He’s not…
He’s making a lot of noise and saying he’s fighting back. But he got the Texas Dems to return to Texas so their redistricting can happen.
But Cali isn’t redistricting. Right now it might be something that people can vote if they want it to happen, and even if that vote passes it might not happen.
We’re losing actual battles because of his lies and misrepresentations about what he is doing in Cali.
Fair. My intention was more to say ‘giving the appearance of fighting back’. My thinking on it was that it is, on net, better to have even an ineffectual example to serve as a reminder that dissent is a choice which both has been and remains available to us all. Your concern about the potentially performative nature of the situation doing damage by muddying the decision making of how that dissent should be handled, however, is extremely valid. Hell, a misunderstanding of what was happening in California even skewed my analysis of the situation until I just looked into it more.
Either way, though, I still fucking hate the guy. I suppose I shouldn’t be too surprised, either; talking a big game and then doing exactly nothing while shit falls apart around you is a textbook Democrat move.
is a textbook
Democratneoliberal move.And people are actually doing things. They’re just not neoliberals so billionaire owned media won’t talk about it.
That’s my whole point…
Too bad cathartic gestures win elections, not logic.
We’re so short sighted and bad at making long term beneficial decisions. Idk how humanity is gonna survive
Thank God this is the top comment here. I keep seeing these posts about him and I’m just worried all the liberals are falling for his bullshit pandering.
Newsom sounds like a typical Democrat then
He’s not a Dem, he’s a neoliberal.
It’s way past the time to stop pretending there isn’t a distinction. We can’t just let them keep lying about what they are, because they’re trashing the image of the entire Democratic party.
They don’t have the same goals, strategy, or process.
Neoliberals are fundementally different than Democrats. And now that neoliberals no longer control the democratic party, it’s time to differentiate the two camps.
From what I’ve seen, he’s further to the right than even many of the utterly useless center-right Democrats.
Out of curiosity, why did you reply to a comment about the importance of differentiating neoliberals from Dems, by conflating the two?
Because they haven’t left the Democratic Party yet, and though the party may be starting to move away from neoliberalism, most of its most prominent voices today are still neoliberals. Running Newsom as a presidential candidate would seal the deal.
Right on, just making sure there wasn’t a good reason. Thanks for confirming
time to vote for jill stein and give the election to trump again
damn, if only there was another option
How much have you done to replace First-past-the-post voting in your state? Surely someone who is this concerned with the spoiler effect is working night and day to address the root cause of the issue!
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
So who instead? Bernie? Jesus. You people don’t want anything.
Sure, let’s elect a Reagan republican dressed up as a democrat who will spend his whole term trying to reach across the aisle.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom torched his own political party and said Democrats have to speak to Republicans — and reject cancel culture — if they want to win.
Screw that. I enjoy watching Newsom bicker with Trump just like I enjoy when the Lincoln Project mocks Trump. But the next democratic candidate needs to be an actual progressive that supports workers and the disadvantaged in our nation.
I am very willing to debate this leading up to and during the primaries, but once those are done I am going to vote against the GOP no matter who is on the ballot.
I’m with you 100% on that. If Newsom is on the ballot, he’ll get my vote.
I am going to vote against fascism. If the Democratic party insists on choosing a candidate who agrees with Republican efforts to genocide me, then I am going to vote against their fascist too. And don’t come looking for me to whine about it after; by the time the Niemoller poem gets to you I’ll be long gone already.
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You better believe it!
Well he’s not a woman, so…
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It might be a less popular opinion, but I’m really hopeful that Tim Walz gets the nod. He’s actually a human as opposed to a politician.
The new poll, conducted by Echelon Insights, has Newsom in second place among potential Democratic candidates with 13 percent support, behind former Vice President Kamala Harris with 26 percent.
The number one spot right now is the woman who lost the last election, while number two is the guy who’s been in the news lately. This is basically just measuring name recognition. It’s more than 3 years until the election, a frontrunner is meaningless at this point.
This is a well known human trait.
This is why marketing is so effective.
Yeah, but you gotta keep calling it out when they use it to try to coronate someone.
Lefties: got anybody yet?
See, this is what having a national party can do for you. Getting some ink 100years out.
To be clear, I’m not supporting this particular candidate or messaging, but I am saying if you’re planning to spike the anti-fascist movement again, please have a plan, and a name at least.
We’re years out. Start now. Next September is too late to yoink the midterms. September 2028 is too late to complain about how much Democrats love teh geniside. Start Now. Have a plan and a name.
If the DNC wants to win they should put someone up who will do that. Mamdani is actively showing them what will hand them the win and Harris showed them what will keep them from it. They seem to be continuing with the Harris strategy.
Why AOC isn’t putting herself up for it and starting now I don’t know. She’s popular and well liked and has the right ideas, it would go pretty well. You’re right that whoever it is needs to start now, though. Of course, I did love that Harris coming up so late left the GOP completely lost as to what to do since they never really had a platform of good ideas.
I think the Harris campaign started by being greatly benefitted from not being chained down by Dem consulting groups.
Unfortunately there was enough time for the consultants (and, reportedly, Biden’s “people”) to force enough errors that lost a lot of that Big Mo.
I swear US Democrats learn absolutely nothing. All you have to do is jingle some keys in their faces and they’ll applaud.
This is a guy who wants California Cities to force homeless people to move every 3 days. This is a guy who has threatened to cut funding to cities that don’t “crack down” on homeless people.
This is a guy who simply has one of his interns to write funny twitter posts and NOW he’s suddenly “presidential material”.
And some people honestly wonder how Trump was re-elected.
Would I prefer a President Newsom to a President trump? Yes. Is Newsom trash that won’t actually change anything about how this country is broken or won’t change how corrupt the Democratic Party is, or won’t meaningfully improve Americans’ material conditions in a sustainable way? Yes.
People need to understand that what neoliberals like Newsom represent, is a perpetuation of everything that sucks about modern American governance. He might perform rhetorically in a satisfying way, some of the time, but he LITERALLY stands for NOTHING other than solidifying his own power and facilitating ’markets’. That’s it. While he is better at the speaking part of this job than some other Democratic Party leaders, understand that words are as deep as this dickhead gets. He and his corporate consultants will not actually improve anything, won’t meaningfully roll back fascism, won’t hold Republicans accountable, won’t reign in or regulate corporations, won’t give you healthcare, won’t stop the genocide, won’t fix media, won’t reform campaign funding, won’t build infrastructure, won’t prosecute business fraud, and on and on.
President Newsom would result in 4 more years of stagnation, followed by us voting in the next Republican fascist out of apathy.
The same cycle will repeat until we have a third party
If you want to see Newsome policy, look at PG&E. He talked a big game around 2019-2020 about holding them accountable after entire towns were destroyed, hundreds killed due to poor equipment replacement and maintenance practices. They were gonna be made public, fined into oblivion, etc…
He’s taken hundreds of thousands (could be millions) from them at this point and has not only created legislation to protect them against liability, but to destroy the consumer friendly solar buyback programs. He’s actually actively fucking residential rooftop solar in the state.
When people actually listened to how he thought on his podcast, they hated it. Now he’s flipped to this shit, and it’s working, and I hate it. This is where democratic national money will flow, into the rich boys pockets, rather than a dude like Mamdani.
So we just go back to the rich getting more welfare?
well why the hell did you think he hired that woman to write his twitter posts?
Newsom is a corpo’s idea of a progressive candidate. That is, he’s not a progressive candidate.
If we got to rank choice vote, I would absolutely put Newsom in above every current potential republican candidate, but the list above his name would also be quite long.
There’s no way he would win an election.
Why not? He has a key advantage over Hillary and Kamala: he has a penis.
He’s also a multimillionaire married to a billionaire, which helps. Him, not the voters, but it helps.
Americans are so fucking dumb oh my god
That’s the saddest part about this entire thing: using the technique of acting like a complete and utter moron is what fires up the American voting base.
At least this guy knows how to fucking fight.
Not really. Everything he’s doing is window dressing that he waited 8 months to start working on. He’s doing better than a lot of Dems but that says way more about how shitty they are than it does how good he is.
Gerrymandering California to cancel out Texas is not just window dressing.
Set a reminder for 9 months from now then look and see which state actually follows through on that.
We’ll see, but it’s undeniable that it’s more than just talk. They’ve already started the process.
And who does he fight? LGBTQ+ people, particularly trans people. He’s not what the USA needs, and he’ll continue the erosion of human rights and the corporate control of everything.
Americans finally knowing when to throw the gloves off and dEcOrUm. You guys had Teddy Roosevelt and he was unabashedly unafraid of the vested interests. And even if there was no Teddy, you guys also mobilised to end the first Gilded Age. You can do it again!
