• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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        Those “fancy steps” are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he’s doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he’s breaking the law.

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          Surely this time he’s done for.

          Hate to break it to you man but the law does not matter. It really never has for the rich and powerful but he has laid it all bare

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            The law does matter. People don’t seem to realize just how much of Trump’s bullshit has already been stopped by the courts.

            The majority of his executive orders have all been blocked or straight-up nullified, so far…but thanks to the overwhelming volume of court cases and the long delays in reaching some decisions…the media never covers the outcomes to the same extent.

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              Buddy if the law mattered even one fucking iota trump himself would be buried under the prison.

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                If the law was perfect or if the law even worked as intended, he would have been in prison a long time ago.

                If the law didn’t matter at all, he wouldn’t bother making threats and testing the waters. The military never would have been recalled from LA the first time around. The FBI would have already arrested the TX Democrats in Chicago, and TX Republicans would have just gone ahead with the redistricting without a second thought (which even I’m pretty surprised that they didn’t).

                Will the law alone prevail and save us in the end? Not likely, but there is a difference between being naive and not allowing yourself to panic and be backed into a corner of black and white thinking. In many ways, doing so is accepting defeat.

                Being smart and strategizing means using the law and along with everything else to your advantage while you still can. Trump has been bulldozing through law bc his goal is to betray his own country. Democrats in TX are breaking the law, but they’re doing it strategically to save their country. They’re aligning themselves with Democrats in other states, and uniting as Americans. That’s what we all should be doing.

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                  Oh okay please explain how the law works I’m sure youre a lawyer or a judge or some other type of legal expert. We’re all dying to hear how our president isn’t guilty of literally dozens and possibly hundreds of serious financial and sexual crimes dating back to the 1980s, or how he is guilty and the fact that he hasn’t been punished is just “how the law works”

                  Man I hate lemmoids

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              whenever an EO gets challenged or struck down, Trump figures out a way to get rid of the problem or go around it. the only thing the law is doing is showing him vulnerabilities to exploit. state injunctions are legally being ignored thanks to SCOTUS, so… Trump does not have to listen to judges.

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              Exactly, he is escalating bc he is feeling pressure. He is getting worried about the midterms. That is not to say that the law will surely prevail in the end, but just to point out that he wouldn’t even be bothering to test the waters with threats of “maybe your city is next” if he didn’t believe he would see pushback.

              He’s already sent and recalled much of the military in L.A., so what tf is he even talking about? Floating the idea of sending them again only to then recall them again?

              D.C. has gained autonomy as a city, but keep in mind it was already unique compared to Chicago, LA, and NY bc it’s already a federal district. When he called for a “federal takeover” a few days ago, he meant stripping the city of its autonomy in terms of taking the power from the mayor.

              When he tried to take LA the first time, he experienced pushback from both city and state governments. Military morale was reportedly extremely low, he made them sleep on the floor bc he didn’t really have any kind of a plan other than a show of force. In the end, he basically succeeded in a public show of wasting money and resources for absolutely nothing.

              Now what? He’s going to send in the troops again? Surely they’ll get the job done the second time around.

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              they get their information from the news and social media. both of which are A > Sensationalised,
              B > Partisan , and C > Incredibly full of shit and misinformation

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          He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.

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            No one is “letting him”. There are dozens of active cases against him and his administration, right now. The process takes time, and the media never covers it adequately…but the system is still working.

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              you’re right that the system is working. it is giving us its ultimate: fascism. this is the intended outcome for profit seeking capitalists. if you mean to say our system of American justice is working… surely you jest.

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              That’s entirely the point. Legal channels are too show to counteract everything at once. See Bannon’s “stress test”.

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                Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.

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              DC is under Marshall law in all but name right now.

              “The Process takes time…” At this rate the process will get around to warning him he should stop shortly after he executes his political opponents and just before he starts executing judges who opposes him.

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                DC isn’t under martial law. Technically, the district belongs to the federal government already, they’ve just been under a kind of conditional self-administration since the 70’s, I think? The only way to take away Trump’s authority over it, would be to grant DC official status as a State.

                And just curious…what system would you suggest, that is better than what’s currently in place?

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                  DC isn’t under martial law.

                  If you’re not going to bother reading posts before replying what’s the point?

                  DC is under Marshall law in all but name right now.

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          And the consequences of him breaking the law will be…? He’ll get arrested and prosecuted like a civilian?

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    Helicopters have been flying low over Houston every couple hours all through the day for the last week.

    I hope y’all liked our hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen, cause it’s coming home

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      I’m not sure taking over the government and making himself a king with a personal army who cannot ever be removed from power no matter how obscene his abuses are is a diversion.

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        I agree, but he does (or tries to do) so much and says so much that some of it probably is a smokescreen. Which parts? I don’t know.

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      Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files

      We changed people saying “Trump fucked kids” to “Trump rapes kids” in just a few days.

      Phrasing matters, and it especially matters to him. Once we call it the Trump/Epstein files, news orgs will too.

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      That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump. The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth. But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.

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          I said criticism, you think no one who opposed Trump should have criticised former cop who built her career on locking people up?

          ACAB, just not one of the worst kind?

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            She was an attorney working for the executive branch, not a cop. Applying for a job higher up in the executive branch. If we are going to call everyone who executes the laws bastards, then you can’t vote for anybody to join the executive branch, as you are willingly choosing to make them a bastard apparently.

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              Just so everyone is on the same page, to you the slogan All Cops Are Bastards applies not to all corrupt people in the legal system that abuse us and imprison us, but it’s exclusively police officers?

              Just checking.

              Downvote and run away.

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        That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump.

        Yes it was. It was a dumb and invalid argument, but it came up more often than it ever should have. It was an EXCUSE to not vote for her, because it was easier to say that than to admit that they’re just afraid of a woman in power.

        I realize there were many more valid reasons to dislike her but compared to trump, she’s a goddamn saint. Plus, I liked her VP pick better than trump’s. She also would have selected a much more competent and qualified cabinet.

        The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.

        Those are all valid criticisms, but trump built his career as a criminal, is deporting people for minor offenses, fighting to deport innocent people to prison labor camps in countries they are not even from, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.

        So comparing the two with just those criticisms, it’s a wash. And then adding on all the other AWFUL shit trump is doing, especially “project 2025,” it’s no contest.

        But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.

        I’m not whitewashing anything, I made a sarcastic comment mocking the misogynists who have put a LITERAL AUTHORITARIAN MADMAN in the presidency because they couldn’t handle a woman president.

        When our choices are : lesser evil or absolute evil (and the third choice is: just let absolute evil win), we really can’t let petty things like “annoying laugh” (again- just a lame excuse for misogyny) go.

        I was accused of having “blood in my hands” for voting for Harris. But really, protest voting against Harris is drenching yourself in that same blood plus gallons more.

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    You mean like when he wasted shit tons of money deploying the national guard to those places so they could sit on their ass, sleep in hallways, and then eventually leave because they weren’t needed and no one asked for them in the first place?

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      Don’t frame it like it won’t turn out to be a big deal. That’s a bad idea, intentional or not. Deploying military assets against American citizens should be considered a serious escalation every single time it happens.

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      they dont fear confrontation because they think they have the means to jail, out-shoot, and out-kill the “Left”

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            My sweet summer child. Part of the oath says you will obey the orders of the President. Soldiers are also highly conditioned to obey orders unquestionably. There’s no time for a moral debate on the battlefield.

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              Which is why he cleared out a lot of the higher ups. If any loyalty to the constitution still remains though, the current higher ups should reject the president’s orders that go against it, meaning the lower level soldiers will still be following orders by also rejecting unlawful orders.

              I’m not super hopeful but that’s how it’s supposed to work.

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    Are they Democrat cities by any chance? I assume he won’t also deploy them to Republican cities?

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    The most free country on the planet is now the most fascist.

    Way to go America, yer fuckin’ winning.