• C1pher@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Translation: “Thanks to your stupid politics, you managed to pull EU closer and finally decide on things for Greater good.”

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    Too many MAGA assholes and bootlickers out there, good for Canada and Spain to show them the middle finger

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    Anyone else remember when libs were fearmongering that Trump will leave NATO and leftists said “don’t threaten me with a good time”?

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      I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
      Liberals are right-wing. Always have been, always will be.

      Dutch liberals are not under the progressive umbrella,
      so while the Dutch progressive party is advocating to stop the war,
      Dutch liberals are in full support of it.

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        ??? What does Dutch libs have to do with this? I meant Usians and others here advocating for voting for Harris. They are naturally pro-NATO so they were using argument people should vote for Harris because Trump said he will make USA leave NATO, while it’s obvious NATO is one of prime tools of US imperialism and no way US will leave it and so Trump lied there, and the asskissing in the OP is clear proof.

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          Rutte is a Dutch lib.
          US leftists are irrelevant unless they reform or topple their regime,
          with the former being the more unrealistic option.

          You made it sound like anything changed.

          I remember it and it’s still the same with the only two differences now being that for one the
          voices of the democratic socialists are slowly going back to their roots,
          becoming more and more anti-NATO.
          And two, the fearmongering is now geared towards Russia.
          Rutte’s bootlicking and increasing EU’s military budget while buying US equipment is not just what Trump wanted,
          but the Euro libs as well.

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            Brain-rot exists. I constantly have to remind my right-wing shit head coworkers that they have more in common with liberals than I do.

            "Well whatabout™ this lib rep or that one???”

            Great, go get them. Drag them into the street and eat them to absorb their power or hang them in your basement with a ball gag for all I care. They are you’re homies, not mine.

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        Yep. But the point is Donald doesn’t realize his dick is getting sucked by someone trying to get a favor out of him rather than just because he’s such a swell guy.

        He’s a narcissist. All he sees is compliments, not the clear manipulation behind them.

        Give Trump praise, he’ll do exactly what you say. Which is why he thinks Putin is his best friend. Putin is just using Trump as a convenient idiot that’ll do anything asked as long as Trump feels he’ll be complimented by it.

        All he has to say is something like:

        “Oh Donny, at this time your big hands and strong will are our only hope. Won’t you please bomb Iran to protect the world and become it’s hero?”

        And that’s all it takes to start WW3. And Trump would post the message thinking it’s a compliment.

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          Still… As a European it (well…) sucks that any of our leaders would need to go this low for favors. Even if indeed they would go for 5 percent, the message should be “thank you, and now fuck off”. It is clear he sees Europe as an enemy and it is very likely this 5pcent is to drag our economies down while he saves his from the disaster he’s creating (where do you think Europeans mostly get their weapons and military equipment from?).

          So cocksucker rutte (and all the spineless clique except for Spain) gonna get assfucked too

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            Agreed. And if it wasn’t clear, I think Trump is an idiot. He sees everyone but himself as an enemy, including a vast majority of the country he is President over. He’s not saving the economy in our country - he’s working exclusively for himself and dismantling it for his favor.

            The defense money discussed in this meeting is very likely going to Trumps family or friends (like the literal 2 Billion his son recieved from Saudi Royalty) As our economy is very much on its way to another great depression, including the corruption and needless Tariffs that caused it last time.

            Everyone that works with Trump gets ass fucked, because the only thing he wants is fealty and self enrichment. There is no benefit towards our country or citizens in his actions, just himself.

            At the very least, the leaders of NATO understand this, and sucked his dick over this deal just to make sure the US didn’t leave NATO as Trump has made very clear he gives no fucks about. Without the US’s military backing, NATO is at immediate threat of hostilities, certainly by Russia who wouldn’t hesitate to push past Ukraine and into Europe as Putin has made clear is his goal. The leaders of NATO are simply making a deal with the devil to avoid literal hell.

            It sucks you have to deal with those consequences, but at least you have a government that isn’t banning abortion to kill more of your people through sheer ignorance.

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        It’s clear Mark Rutte is talking to Trump like he’s talking to a child. He’s buttering Trump up because it’s clear superficial gestures are enough to please him.

        It does reflect positively on the influence of America, but not on Trump himself.

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      Real tweet, fake text… no way any NATO leader would say “Europe is going to pay BIG” it’s just too Trump. Same with the incessant comma splices.

      But big congrats to Trump for ruining the information space so completely that I genuinely cannot tell what’s real anymore.

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        This is Mark Rutte.
        He would totally say “Europe is going to pay in a BIG way” to flatter Trump.
        Incessant comma splices is I guess typically Dutch and indicative to the way Rutte talks. I sometimes do it too.
        He’s a liberal, making him almost as right-wing as Ursula von der Leyen, not a social democrat
        or a democratic socialist or left of that.

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        I’m sure EVERY European politician randomly CAPITALISES words like some LUNATIC

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          I would love and hate to see proof that Mark Rutte really texted this to Trump.

          The “Truth” post is 100% real, inarguably, but I haven’t seen anyone reporting the picture is of a real message from Rutte to Trump.

          E: never mind that is… apparently Rutte’s office has confirmed the message is really from Rutte???

          ???

          I need to go lie down.

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            I can tell you as a Dutchman, reading this I could hear Mark Rutte’s voice and it aligns with his anglophile suck-up character.
            I couldn’t see him writing it any other way.

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      Ran a quick search and multiple well established news outlets are reporting this.

      I’m afraid it is.

      The wording does seem very out of character for Rutte but it makes sense that he feels the need to stoop to Trump’s level and overdo the flattering.

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        Really?
        I’d say it hits it completely on point the way Rutte is, an anglophile that doesn’t want to rustle too many feathers unless it’s against leaders of countries outside of NATO.

        His party is super-pro-Israel and super-anti-Russia.
        What’s he gonna complain about?

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      Things I’d want to know before deciding for myself whether the screenshot montage is real, regardless of whether Trump shared it (he did):

      • Have we seen other screenshots where Trump use enormous font sizes? Is that how bigger system text looks in this app? He’s not exactly youthful, so it’s no great surprise, but worth asking the question.
      • Is it realistic that Trump or an aide would have screenshotted the entire message within two minutes of it being received?
      • Does this messaging app routinely display the contact name offset and the profile image vertically cropped? What app is it?
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        Don’t know about any of it, but I’ve had Rutte as my prime minister.
        This reads like the way he talks and thinks.
        The biggest strength of Rutte is that he’s a chameleon,
        so there’s no telling what he actually thinks,
        but considering his party allegiance it’s pro-NATO through and through.

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    By the way Rutte changed the wording in the agreement to be more vague as to what ‘allies’ means because Spain refused to agree to 5%.

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      Trump is getting played because of his fragile ego. Him sharing a message of a person stroking his ego is evidence of it working.

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        How is he getting played by the imperialist faction agreeing to up their imperialism budget (specifically what he demanded) and praising him?

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          Mark Rutte used to be the Dutch PM and his part in NATO is to advance the collective security of Europe, now by keeping the US on board. It’s a something for nothing.

          The 5% is not binding, it’s just words on a paper, not even the US spends 5%.

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            Furthermore, in the negotiations, they have allowed a lot of infrastructure projects to be counted towards this percentage calculations. So, there may not be much in the way of new actual military spending, just improving the roads/rails of the agreeing countries. That seems a lot easier to sell to the folks that are further from Russia.

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      Of course not, it was the entire idea.

      This message is so obviously sucking his asshole, they couldn’t be more obvious yet Trump obviously has no idea

      The cheeto really has a long list of mental issues, doesn’t he?