Kat Cammack doesn't believe Florida's abortion ban was at fault for her near-death experience, but instead blames Democrats for "fearmongering."
    • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.world
      65·
      4 months ago

      She’s in the elite ruling class, so she gets to do whatever the fuck she wants with impunity while projecting false accusations onto anyone who fits in the ‘other’ category while her dumbass base of uneducated gerrymandered trolls eats it up.

    • spongebue@lemmy.world
      264·
      4 months ago

      In all seriousness: it was an ectopic pregnancy, 5 weeks along. Technically legal to perform under Florida law, so in theory it shouldn’t have been a problem to have it done even under current law.

      To be clear, none of this is meant to be an enforcement of that law, any other laws about abortion on the books, or the anti-abortion movement in general. I can absolutely understand providers being skittish about anything even remotely borderline with these laws in place, just trying to get the basic facts into the comments because good arguments are worthless if it’s about incorrect facts

        • bus_factor@lemmy.world
          21·
          4 months ago

          If it’s a matter of days you could probably just lie about the timing of your last period. Those weeks are calculated from the date of your last period, not from the date of conception, so as long as you’re the only one who knows your cycle you could probably lie a little bit.

          Which also makes a 5 week deadline more insane than most people realize. Given a steady 4 week cycle, you have 1 week to realize your period is late, schedule and perform an abortion. A lot of people do not have a steady cycle, and those may very well not notice until it’s too late, even if they track their cycle.

        • AA5B@lemmy.world
          3·
          4 months ago

          And is there any medical proof that can stand up to brainworm addled pseudoscience in court ? Would you bet your career and your freedom on that?

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      4 months ago

      SHE needed one. That’s the only reason. The answer was No for everyone else, but Yes for her. Nobody can kill babies but her.

  • skozzii@lemmy.ca
    21·
    4 months ago

    Her medical documents did in fact say abortion, she had an abortion. Use whatever mental gymnastics she wants, but factually - She had an abortion, the very thing they have and are wanting to ban.

    Any person with even the smallest spark in their brain going through this can figure this out.

    There are thousand of abortions performed every day on people who want to be a parent more than anything in the world, people going through IVF and fertility treatments have a high chance of ectopic pregnancies. If you actually understand this, it’s obvious how insane she is.

  • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
    18·
    4 months ago

    I read the WSJ article and she is absolutely infuriating. Her reasoning contains several fallacies:

    False Cause:

    “It was absolute fearmongering at its worst”

    She blames political messaging instead of considering that vague legal language created legitimate professional uncertainty.

    Straw Man:

    “There will be some comments like, ‘Well, thank God we have abortion services,’ even though what I went through wasn’t an abortion”

    This is particularly frustrating. Advocates aren’t celebrating her needing an “abortion”, they’re pointing out her experience is exactly what they predicted: doctors hesitating due to legal uncertainty. She had to argue with staff, pull up laws on her phone, and call the governor’s office during a medical emergency. That’s the system breakdown advocates warned about, not a misunderstanding of medical definitions.

    False Dilemma:

    “We have turned the conversation about women’s healthcare into two camps: pink hats and pink ribbons. It’s either breast cancer or abortion.”

    This drastically oversimplifies complex healthcare policy into just two opposing sides and the irony is staggering. It’s like a company ignoring safety advocates’ warnings about a confusing manual, then when accidents happen, blaming those advocates for ‘scaring’ workers instead of fixing the manual.

    She lived the very scenario abortion rights advocates had been warning about all along, yet somehow, in her mind, the problem isn’t the law, it’s the people who tried to stop it from hurting her in the first place.

  • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
    182·
    4 months ago

    Honestly wish they’d have let her die and made it clear to her it was on behalf of what she fought for. Bitch doesn’t deserve to doom so many women and live despite being a would-be victim of her own evil.

  • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
    16·
    4 months ago

    She should have stood by her religious and political principles, and just rode it out. It was God’s, and MAGA’s, will to put her through that ordeal, and he expected her to accept her fate.

    Instead, she defied The MAGA Lord and fought to have a Democratic abortion. She’s a Democrat now, destined for an eternity in a fiery torturous Hell. May God have mercy on her damned Democratic Soul.

    /S, nobody really believes that nonsense.

    • Psythik@lemmy.world
      3·
      4 months ago

      As someone raised by conservatives, they absolutely do believe such nonsense. Remove the sarcasm, and you sound exactly like my dad.

    • wabasso@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      4 months ago

      I didn’t realize there were pro-lifers that accepted “it’s not an abortion if the fetus wasn’t going to be viable”. You could pretty easily extend that to full term. Hell with medical debt, I don’t see how there’s much chance in a lot of cases even post partum.

  • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
    6·
    4 months ago

    I have to wonder if the Doctors weren’t trolling her a bit. She had an ectopic pregnancy at 5 weeks. Not only is the abortion necessary, it was within the six-week limit, so it was perfectly legal on all counts. So why would they claim they were confused about the law?

    I suspect they wanted to teach an arrogant Florida Republican a lesson about politics encroaching on the medical decisions between a doctor and their patient, and made her jump through a bunch of hoops first, just to make her feel the fear, anxiety, anger, and frustration of the average citizen whose medical care is being dictated by MAGA Nazis.

    Remember, we are only hearing the side of a professional MAGA Nazi, so she’s a proven liar.