• darvocet@infosec.pub
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    He was in Saudia Arabia with the president so he’s still there. Don’t let that fucker off the hook.

    Will never happen but if the dems don’t go fucking scorched earth should they ever have power again we’ll never stand a chance.

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      I appreciate the fervor, democratic leadership is a bunch of spinless cowards, but trying to tear down democrats without a competent actually progressive replacement political organization is handing power directly to Republicans to rule completely unopposed.

      Given the reality of political parties in the US, I’d rather spinless corpses filling up space to slow Republicans down rather than letting Republicans take total control in the absence of any marginal opposition.

      Unless you’re planning on running for office as a competently progressive candidate.

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        From where I’m standing, it looks a whole hell of a lot like the Democratic establishment players are handing power directly to Republicans to rule completely unopposed, so I’m really not sure what your point is.

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          My point is that we need to have an organized political structure to get progressive people elected who will actually promote progressive policies. Saying “Burn Down the Dems” with literally no plan to put up opposition to Republicans is beyond short sighted strategically.

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            Gonna be brutally honest: at this point, I’m becoming suspicious that the DNC was acting as controlled opposition, in which case it would be absolutely justified and necessary to burn the Democratic Party down. Seriously, how are they so fucking incredible at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? It genuinely beggars belief how reliably they manage to do that, and then fail to press any advantage when they DO somehow manage to eke out some small sliver of control and agency.

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              Sure, let’s say they are controlled opposition. What do we do after we burn down the democratic party? What then? Because I do not like the prospect of what comes after a single party takes complete control.

              There is a lot of talk about burning and destroying but nothing about what comes after and it’s the “What comes after” that has me most worried.

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      So you’re saying that democrats should seize power and then use that power to politically persecute republicans?

      How does this end exactly?

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        No, Dems should use their power to indict and prosecute people for actual crimes that they have committed. Political affiliation is irrelevant.

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            The idea that Republicans should get away with criminality, corruption, and treason, simply because they whine loudly that they are getting picked on is ridiculous. We have laws on the books, if you break them, you get prosecuted, no matter who you vote for. Democrat Robert Menendez got prosecuted and found guilty last year, and not one Democrat said that it was unfair.

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              When have I said the opposite? I never said to let anyone get away with any crimes. But you can’t prosecute people for being members of a party, and you certainly can’t investigate everyone in the current admin without it looking like political persecution. It also sets the stage for presidents to fall into the habit that old papa Joe set of pardoning everyone, meaning now admins have carte blanche to break the law. I fully expect Trump to do it but the next president is one that will need to break these vicious cycles and also give up a lot of their power lest we continue down the path to real tyranny.

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          Politics is not a fucking team sport. Dems have had opportunity to legislate a better system but instead capitulate to their corporate overlords at every turn. Instead of asking them to persecute republicans ask them to do the shit they promise to do but never deliver. I guarantee that will go better than turning opponents into martyrs.

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    People hate nazis in general so it’s understandable that people would hate Elon Musk, a nazi.

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    Simply not talking about him is not “slamming the door”…

    They’ve simply learned that hyping Elonazi was invoking too much damage to his companies.

    So now the Department of Gratifying Elonazi (DOGE) minions will more quietly work behind the scenes and we will learn much less about the damage they’re doing and when they’re doing it.

    This is much worse.

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    Nobody really believes Musk is being shut out of the administration. Trump and Musk lie constantly. Of course they’re lying about this.

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    We hate you too, Trump, can you slam the door on yourself too? And don’t let it hit you on the ass on your way out, it’s bad enough we’re going to have to clean the spray tan off it.