• Grass Cat@lemmy.world
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    Elissa Slotkin IS the oligarchy. She is the Hot Dog Princess. Her grandpa owned BallPark Franks—subsidiary of the Tyson Foods megacorp. Every time someone eats a hot dog, Elissa gets more passive income than most folks earn from a year’s labor.

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      Among the shittiest hot dogs on the market. It’s Nathan’s or Hebrew National, everything else is garbage.

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    “Not resonating with voters”

    Bernie and AOC’s “Fighting Oligarchy” campaign is pulling in more people to their rallies than attended Obama’s in 08.

    Don’t peddle that horseshit you Liberal traitor.

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    We don’t need more “pro-israel centrists”

    The reason Dem turnout in generals is depressed, is our choices are CIA war criminals like Slotking or a republican.

    She is the problem, not the 99.9% who don’t want an oligarchy

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      I completely agree, but it’s also likely a reasonable representation of her Michigan constituents. It’s not a terribly diverse state.

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        Maybe they should encourage some more aggressive left wing people to compete against them to broaden horizons of the dabates, like bringing a ‘communist’ along with ‘socailist’ to debate a republican

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    No, she can fuck off.

    The oligarchy is killing us, and spinning language won’t change that. Meanwhile, ‘woke’ just means ‘social empathy’, which is ironically the solution to many of the problems the oligarchy is causing (and they’re not shy about this – Musk recently said empathy is bad).

    We need more ‘woke’, not less. And being butthurt that the fascists are using ‘woke’ as a slur against us is childish and easy to ignore if you’re not too simple to get it.

    Fuck this. I’m woke and proud of it. We all should be.

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      Woke means understanding we live in an oligarchy in my mind. MAGA calls people sheep while complaining about them being woke in the same breath. They don’t even understand the language they use.

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      Fine. Then come up with a plan to educate conservatives. Because this thing where the state legislates new norms (e.g. bio men in bio women’s sports) is NOT making sense to them. They are freaking out because they don’t understand it. And we can’t just make laws to make them accept it.

      From their perspective they are losing their country. We can laugh and call them backwards, but that won’t help. There HAS to be a plan that is better than, f-you wake up.

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        That’s a big problem that switching from ‘oligarch’ to ‘king’ won’t solve. Using different words is a very simplistic answer, when what we’re fighting here is not a language barrier but a wide cultural one.

        The real issue is complex and multifaceted: conservatives have been highly propagandised through increasingly insulated media bubbles to the point that now there’s very little that can penetrate them, and switching up a few words will not get them to listen. They’ve been taught to be distrustful of facts and reality, and to believe that compassion is weakness.

        I don’t know how to fix this, but watering down our language will not help. That’s been tried many times, and it always backfires.

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        I’m not sure about this. People with money spent a lot to tell everyone that these things are problems. If we spent the same amount of money to say the opposite, opinions would differ.

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      “ She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.”

      Did you miss this part?

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        Its great that you’re into solid research. I admire that. Maybe you could take a moment to read Slotkins wikipedia then.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elissa_Slotkin

        And google her caucus memberships. They tell you who she is, and its not great. And she’s another “Endorsed by Liz Cheney” Dem which is the coveted endorsement for liberals.

        Let me help get you started from that wikipedia page:

        Caucus memberships

        New Democrat Coalition

        Problem Solvers Caucus[

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          I know who she is. I believe you are incorrect in your take on her and Im not sure you understand how our system works at all which is a frequent problem for leftists.

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            I know who she is. I believe you are incorrect in your take on her

            Great, explain her caucus memberships and being a top AIPAC recipient then. Go ahead, I’ll wait. Do you need me to google the mission of those caucuses for you? Even the stated mission would do it, we dont even need to look at the awful things they actually support or the various ways they have shafted members of the democratic party for decades.

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    Way to advertise what side she’s really on.

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      Was looking for this. One of the many many many problems the US has is spineless cowards terrified of trying to fix the underlying problem because every single election they ever have is always “the most important election in history”, that if they can just keep the bad guy out this once they can fix the systemic problems in their democracy later. And yet, the Democrats won in 2008, 2012, and 2020, with a congressional majority accompanying four of those years, and y’all did nothing during that time to fix matters.

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    Her name is: Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)

    Just so you don’t accidentally vote for her.

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      Unfortunately shes in the right party for this BS. This is what the Dems have been for decades. We need a new party, not a new democrat.

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    She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.

    Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”

    Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”

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      People are clued in on oligarchy even if they don’t quite know the exact definition. After Bernie and AOC started their tour, it was Wikipedia top 5 articles. Slotkin is just a right wing traitor.

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      Yep. She’s talking about changing optics and messaging to something that resonates with the larger ‘I know very little about politics but I still vote’ group of voters.

      The headline feels like clickbait.

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    I can’t do what [AOC] does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist

    “It’s pragmatic for me to avoid making my Republican donors upset.” What an idiot.

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      Yep. When the ‘resistance’ grand plans are to adopt the fascist framing (e.g. that ‘woke is weak’ and should be surrendered) what’s the point in having an opposition party?

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      They’re winning because of exactly what she said. There’s an issue of perception that people on the left will never fully grasp.

      You all have no idea to engage online or publicly in a way that comes off as appealing.

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    You. Cannot. Build. A. System. Of. Social. Justice. In. A. System. Of. Political/Economic. Injustice.

    There’s a reason why we got so much shit done in the 60-70s, socially, and why nobody really feels like we’ve progressed much since then.