No freedom of religion without freedom FROM religion.
Resist a theocratic state.
No person ought, or of right can be compelled, to attend any religious worship, or erect, or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of his conscience.
–Vermont Constitution, Article 3
Wish we could have got that one in the national Constitution.
DEI but just for Christians
There’s a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.
Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today’s standards. I’m not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.
the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society
Yeah, Democrats did this already. They’re called Hate Crimes and it’s the law. Not a measley little EO.
Every time I read something he said it hurts my brain. Everything about his speech patterns is so fucking stupid.
Dementia induced by syphilis
And this is it. This is the step that makes the US a theocratic dictator.
This is the thing with religion: ANYTHING can be labelled as being against it. Muslims? Anti Christian bias. Atheists? Don’t get me started. Gays? Obviously. Scientists? Doh! We do want the results from science, though, like computers, food, clean water, etc, but scientists are evil devil anti Christian.
I want nothing to do with the US anymore
My dude you forgot women. Women are the prime target of all religion. They’ll end no fault divorce, end marital rape, institute child marriage and call it all gods fucking plan to procreate. The right to vote will only belong to male heads of family.
… white male heads of family
They’re gearing up to roll out project 2025.
They’re not “gearing up;” it’s steamrolling us as we speak.
Most of the shit they’ve been putting out is Project 2025…
Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus’ teachings, and I’ll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I’ll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.
I’m down for whipping church sanctioned conmen and maybe even cursing some figs.
The Satanic Temple is going to be very busy. Maybe I should make a donation.
Please do. Lol
It is funny after years of fighting taliban the US now need to deal with neo-taliban at home.
There’s a reason christofascists are often referred to as “Y’all Queda”.
We’ve always been plagued with these people but now they have a tool like donvict.
An entire voter base can’t rabidly denounced [insert scary middle eastern religion] religious rule while salivating at a chance for Christian religious rule.
It’s been here all along.
Jesus pretty much was a socialist so where does that leave us?
He wasn’t promoting statism.
I mean, there’s zero evidence that he was even real.
I’m saying if you read the Bible, Jesus’s teachings align with socialism.
The consensus of scholars that focus on academic history of that time agree that it is extremely likely that some guy named Yeshua lived around that time and place and tried to reform Judaism as others were doing at the time (the Pharisees were the reformers that ended up being successful).
There’s a whole FAQ about this on reddit’s askhistorians that goes into detail but essentially if you argue Yeshua of Galilee never existed you cannot then accept that most historical figures were real as we have similar evidence for the existence of many people.
And Im saying they might be more anarchistic beliefs than socialist beliefs as the NT isn’t pushing a pro-governance view.
edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/259vcd/comment/chf3t4j/?context=3
I’m sure a guy named yesua may have existed
I’m also sure he was just another guy spouting religious beliefs, he was not magical or supernatural, because none of that exists
All Im claiming is Yeshua existed and he was a rabbi around Galilee. The religion is likely very loosely based upon things he said as well as stuff people added (eg “render unto Caesar” is just saying pay your taxes).
Im not claiming historical evidence exists for the miracles.
Every source of evidence I have heard of concerning Jesus having actually existed is either from the Bible or from religious relics like the shroud of Turin, that also aren’t even real.
So you look at biased non-academic resources and then conclude that the belief is not academic? Do you not get the problem is the resources you are using?
I mentioned a very specific source to start with which is Reddit’s askhistorians FAQ. Try looking at that because it is entirely constructed off of academic history.
You can choose to believe whatever you want but the consensus of historians focused on this is that he had to exist in some fashion albeit not as a messiah.
You got a specific link for this source of info? Because I’m looking at their FAQ right now and the only thing even mentioning Jesus is specifically about what Askhistorians users think of Reza Asland and his work.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/259vcd/comment/chf3t4j/?context=3
This is the answer in the FAQ which links to another as well.
there’s zero evidence that he was even real.
There is abundant testimonial of his existence, enormous bodies of archeological evidence dating the nascent Christian church to the period immediately following his life, and plenty of contemporary evidence describing the more prominent figures central to the gospels and the various letters that follow.
We have at least as much evidence of Jesus as we do Socrates or Confucius or Boudica or Pakal the Elder.
I’m saying if you read the Bible, Jesus’s teachings align with socialism.
Not exactly. Socialists are not a Millenarian Cult eagerly awaiting the end of the world. The early disciples believed the apocalypse was nigh and material wealth would be of no consequence in the Next Life. Their socialist policies were heavily informed by their dogmatic belief in a Final Judgement coming within their lifetime.
Modern socialists don’t hold this view at all. On the contrary, they tend to be deeply concerned with the long term health and well-being of their communities, their economies, and the global ecology. One of the major distinctions between modern Friedmanian free market thinking and MLM economic central planning is the focus on fluctuations in market price relative to the long term socio-economic consequences of current economic policy.
If anything, it is the capitalists (particularly the more Millenarian-minded Protestant cults) who behave like there’s no tomorrow. The socialists are the ones talking about the next century of climate change and the next millennium of biodiversity / sustainability.
We don’t really have evidence of Jesus’ historicity. I mean absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence but, all in all, there’s pretty much zero direct evidence of his existence. Almost nothing that would point to historicity in the gospels is corroborated by archeology… like was Pilot a person who existed? Yes, very likely he was. Is there biographies of him? Yes, there are contemporaneous sources showing him to be real. Is there anything, outside of the gospels, recount him meeting Jesus in any capacity let alone a whole trial and execution? No, there’s nothing like that. The whole scenario of Jesus’ life as chronicled by the gospels doesn’t hold up to scrutiny… sure, some of the people and many of the places do exist, but just because New York exists it doesn’t mean Spiderman is real.
As for the early church, even Paul doesn’t claim to have known a historic Jesus but rather only recounts experiences of visions of Jesus and angels.
We don’t really have evidence of Jesus’ historicity.
We have multiple written testimonials, period artwork, and documentation of the resulting mass movement.
Almost nothing that would point to historicity in the gospels is corroborated by archeology… like was Pilot a person who existed? Yes, very likely he was. Is there biographies of him? Yes, there are contemporaneous sources showing him to be real. Is there anything, outside of the gospels, recount him meeting Jesus in any capacity let alone a whole trial and execution? No, there’s nothing like that.
You could play the same game with Socrates. Dismiss the fragmented reproductions of - periodically contradictory and occasionally fantastical - accounts of the pupils of his pupils and he doesn’t exist either. Indeed, there Socratic problem tackles the root challenge of reconstructing the veracity of a 2000 year old figure’s existence. To complicate things, some of the earliest writings on Socrates known to exist are Gnostic Gospels (which contains fragments of a transcribed copy of Plato’s Republic).
You disabuse yourself of historical Christian accounts at the peril of ignoring the accumulated history of the ancient world.
just because New York exists it doesn’t mean Spiderman is real.
We have real life video accounts of people in costumes identical to that of the cartoon character climbing buildings. What’s the line here? Are we saying nobody’s ever gained superpowers from a radioactive spider? Or that nobody’s ever dressed up in a costume like that to chase after petty criminals? Or that nobody’s ever climbed a building in that iconic outfit?
If, two-thousand years from now, we discovered a written account of one of these performers along with a handful of comic book fragments discovered in a book case buried in a cave in the deserted island of Manhattan… what kind of conversation would you have?
If we then somehow managed to resurrect a snippet of footage what would be concluding, then?
You can dispute Magical Jesus with the same cavalier attitude as Spiderman. But this is more akin to disputing the existence of Eliot Ness by pointing to a stack of Dick Tracey cartoons and saying “Unbelievable!”
How many EOs does this dickhead have now in these two weeks alone?
How many does a normal president have in a full four year term?
Anyone wanna get together, publicly, and burn a huge pile of Bibles?
Whoawhoawhoa…have I been going to the wrong Communist Socialist Democrat America Hater meetings? We’ve been burning babies, not bibles. Looks like we goofed.
As long as the babies have been baptized before they’re burned, Y’all Queda should be fine with it cuz you’re just express shipping them to heaven.
express shipping them to heaven.
Do we have a c/brandnewsentences yet?
Never have I felt the urge to do so, but yes.
you should definitely make this a thing
Didn’t Elon Musk and Michael Flynn just post about how they will stop processing payments to a Lutheran organization?
Let’s start there.
Those weren’t Real Christians. They were followers of some fringe leftist ideology from the Middle East.
I just got your post two days later. I am an idiot.
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In case anyone wants to see the post. It’s not an organization that only liberal Lutherans supported either. LCMS (the larger conservative branch) supported this organization for years, too.
I went to an LCMS church as a kid, it felt like one step down from Catholicism.
For those who don’t know, there are two main branches of the Lutheran Church in the US.
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Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (known as LCMS)
- More Conservative views
- Doctrine first mentality, believes Bible is without error
- No Same Sex Marriage
- No ordained women
- Young Earth Creationism
- Traditional Worship
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Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (known as ELCA)
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More Liberal views
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Doesn’t believe scripture is 100% accurate , especially when it comes to history and science
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Does allow for same sex marriage
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Allows women and LGBT+ to be ordained
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Does not fully endorse creationism
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Contemporary Worship
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Also, I believe Tim Walz is a member of an ELCA church.
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As a reminder: The guy defending Christianity is a rapist and adulterer who set free 1500 criminals, including pedophiles and child rapists.
If Jesus was real, he would bitch slap Trump so hard it would take the paint off his face!