Most Americans now favor government-paid health insurance for all, according to a new poll, as voters across party lines see major healthcare reforms as a priority less than a month before midterm elections to decide control of the US Congress.
Two-thirds of US adults — up from 53% in 2020 — said they are in favor of universal US health insurance often referred to as “Medicare for all,” according to a poll conducted by health policy research firm KFF released on Tuesday.
By party affiliation, 84% of respondents who identify as Democrats and 72% of independent voters were in favor, while 66% of Republicans were opposed.
When told such a single-payer model would eliminate private insurance plans, that overall support dropped to 52% — still well ahead of the 37% favorability seen in the 2020 survey.
When told such a single-payer model would eliminate private insurance plans, that overall support dropped to 52% — still well ahead of the 37% favorability seen in the 2020 survey.
That’s weird to me. Are people really that impressed with their private insurance plans? Because I’ve had several private plans in my life and none of them were better than Medicare, for the price.
Are people really that impressed with their private insurance plans?
No, its just the people, generally, are dumb as fuck. They barely know what words mean, let alone what they communicate when they come together into sentences.
It is about years and years and years of propaganda.
Ol’ Ronnie Raygun even cut an LP warning of the “dangers” of “socialized medicine”…back in - I wish I was kidding - 1961. And the propaganda against it goes back to decades before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Speaks_Out_Against_Socialized_Medicine
wait wait wait, you’re telling me people already stretched to the limit DON’T want to pay $900 a month for insulin, or if they get sick, going BANKRUPT?!?!?
When told such a single-payer model would eliminate private insurance plans, that overall support dropped to 52%
Stockholm Syndrome was always fake and a lie so what the fuck is wrong with these idiots?
Give people a smelly gym sock and let them hold it for five minutes and they’ll reflexively try to stop you from taking it back. Getting over 50% yes to a survey question that says “and then we will take something away from you” is honestly pretty crazy.
Still remarkably low,
When told such a single-payer model would eliminate private insurance plans
There are medicare advantage supplements provided by private insurance that would continue. I’m sure the only people who like private health insurance are ones where employer is paying the majority share.
The best question would be would you prefer an after tax raise as a result of M4A? (based on following table)
Coverage Type Average Employee Share Average Employer Share Total Annual Premium Single Coverage $1,440 $7,885 $9,325 Family Coverage $6,850 $20,143 $26,993 where a 4% income tax surchage for a M4A plan that saves overall economy $1T, $60k salary would net $7500 as single plan, and $23500 in family plan in extra disposible income, when employer passes on their savings as extra salary.
$1T in savings also means $1T in additional disposible income for non-healthcare/insurance economy, and more employment/business profits in “useful economy” that multiplies to more economic growth.
So, the proper poll question is do you want a big after tax salary increase, with huge economic growth that gives you more job/raise opportunities, or do you want a corrupt extortion based healthcare system with private AI/death panels that denies you coverage?
Nit. Employers don’t pay for healthcare. People need to get over this mode of thinking.
A company hires you at a total compensation rate that include the salary they pay you, the contribution to your retirement, your health insurance, etc.
Think of it this way. The portion of the salary they COULD have paid you, they instead keep from you to pay for your health insurance.
It’s your money. You’re just delegating to them the responsibility of paying your insurance.
Once we get beyond this mode of thinking we can realize that we can, instead, delegate the government to pay for our health insurance.
Yes, the plan would have that compensation included somehow, to the workers who earn it or to the universal healthcare plan. This and a revenue system to fund it like successful places, benefits most people in cost and health. No more bankruptcies, like people still have with insurance. If the owners skip out on paying this worker compensation in the changeover, people are still more free to leave bad jobs with “good insurance” and do something else, start their own business, care for loved ones, more education, etc. It’s win win for the vast majority of us when we look at the full picture! :)
Think of it this way. The portion of the salary they COULD have paid you, they instead keep from you to pay for your health insurance.
That’s my core point. Unions also tend to prefer 30% higher cost health plans because its non taxable to their membership, and life being shittier for the rest of us, is reason to apply to join their union.
Once we get beyond this mode of thinking we can realize that we can, instead, delegate the government to pay for our health insurance.
Yes. And and both polls and “marketing” of M4A ignore this principle.
Of course, we have known this for decades and the support grows every year.
Voters also want higher minimum wage. It doesn’t matter.
Voters also want term limits. It doesn’t matter.
Voters also want no war and reduced military spending. It doesn’t matter.
BoTh PaRtIeS know what the voters want, and they choose to do what Amazon wants instead for some unknown reason.
I wonder why? It is one of the greatest mysteries of science.
Doesn’t matter what the people want. The government is owned by corporate interests and oligarchs.
This might help look at some reasons that poll majority doesn’t result in votes for it, and how to get this, which would be great, and with protections so maga doesn’t ruin it if it ever starts and people see it’s better than now. We can see how it improved lives where Medicaid expanded.
How does the psychological strain of artificial scarcity, like the threat of medical bankruptcy or social displacement, create a cognitive trap that drives people to vote against their own material needs and embrace exclusionary, fear-based politics instead of universal safety nets that could relieve their suffering?
That won’t happen. Whatever emerges after fascism collapses will be so economically weak, years of deep austerity will be the future.
