Liberals will lie to you and tell you to “just vote in the primary,” but in reality they simply don’t care about trans rights and do not believe there is ever a right time to challenge transphobic Democrats.
First primary: the transphobes hide their colors so you can’t vote against them.
First general election: the snakes reveal their colors, but you can’t vote against the traitors because “blue no matter who.” They tell you to just vote in the next primary.
Second primary: the same people who tell you now “save it for the primary” shift their tune to “we can’t give up an incumbent seat in a purple district!”
Trans people can see through these bad-faith lies. Yet of course, mansplaining trolls will be sure to breathlessly explain “lesser of two evil” math, as if that’s not an argument we haven’t heard a thousand times and already rejected due to its obvious flaws. There’s never a shortage of arrogant cis people who think they know more about trans issues than actual trans people.
Liberals want your votes, not your voices. Be a good little minority and sit down. Shut up. Support the party. You owe the party your support. The party owes you nothing.
You know what. You’re right. Vote red. Pick a Republican. That will teach the Democrats to notice trans people. Or don’t vote, that will surely help.
At the risk of sounding extremely dismissive, because it is, the world is literally on fire and you might not get to win your issue of choice in the next 5 or even 10 elections. Of course every person regardless of majority of minority status deserves to have their basic rights met and to be treated with a modicum of decency and acceptance. Of course. When it comes to elections though, R will come together for any one of no abortion, more guns, less taxes, go church!
The far left doesn’t win in the US, and won’t win, because, son of a bitch, there is not enough fundamental support for Mediterranean furry vegans with one eye who use glow in the dark blowy wheelchairs. And wouldnt you know it, all 900 trans people on Lemmy and their vegan allies cannot storm the palace by themselves no matter how hard you rage post.
Yes it sucks. Conservatives are a bloc. The left is not, and each of the 347 extreme minorities can’t play nice together unless their issue is at the forefront which makes a fundamentally impossible purity test for every candidate. Fuck people who are transphobic and good on people who are good allies, but there just isn’t a competitive counter block because the left isn’t full of group-thinking neanderthals.
I understand that you are mad, but you can’t win shit with 10 people. So do you want the lesser evil or would you rather deal with the obviously worse door number two?
Your last paragraph is functionally right. You can make your own choice and it sucks no matter what you do. Nobody is winning here. That’s how it is. Fuck.
The right is full of brainwashable morons and the left is all full of vibrant and unique non-teaming, purity testing assholes with stupid long Linux socks.
I hate pancakes
Oh so you hate waffles?
“I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage” - Barack Obama, 2008
The same Barack Obama that helped achieve the following during his time as President of the United States:
Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act adding perceived gender, sexual orientation, gender identity and disability to the existing hate crime law.
Lifted the ban on travel to the United States by those infected with HIV
Signed into law the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Repeal Act of 2010
Under his presidency, the Pentagon ended the policy that barred transgender people from serving openly in the military.
I was certainly disappointed when I heard him say what he said, but I also could read between the lines. I was disappointed it took him so long to finally become a vocal advocate of marriage equality (thank you Joe Biden for opening your big mouth, I mean this sincerely), but I none-the-less voted for him and in the end I am so glad he was in that office instead of McCain or Romney.
Can we please not fall for the bait. Look at not only their actions but also the situation they are in. Yes, Bill Clinton signed DOMA into law, but it also passed with veto-proof majorities, making a vote against it only performative. Yes, Clinton instituted Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, but this was a time when homophobia was absolutely ingrained throughout the US. My own parents said some pretty horrible things about queer people, and now they are (mostly) accepting of the multiple queer people we have in our family.
If you’re going to be upset at anyone, be upset at your family, friends and neighbors not doing shit (even I could be doing more). Supporting trans rights arguably is less risk to us than someone vying for political office who could end up extending protections for trans people. It took a wave of challenging conversations within families as well as increased positive visibility in the media (and arguably the passing on of a generation) to get to a situation where politicians could openly support any kind of queer family without facing immense backlash.
Keep voting lesser evil TM. Surely they will move left after the elections and not sell out to right wing donors…
The DNC should have been purged of centrists but you all wanted to stick with them. Now this is what you get.
Good idea, you should just let the fascists win. I’m sure that’ll go well for everyone.
Dem centrists already abandoned students, medical professionals, the poor, immigrants, anyone needing civili rights, or free speech. The wonder is that trans people ever thought such a fairwether friend would be at their side for more than a single election cycle. The republicans are fascsists and the dems are donation whores who stand for nothing except cashing checks from their corporate Johns.
If I’m wrong please explain to me what the dems will run on in the midterm election. What are the issues they are caring deeply about and championing? Does anyone know?
Such a small minority (1% of 1%) stokes such overwhelming fear.
Even if you can’t be an empathetic human who accepts that everyone should be safe and allowed to exist as who and what they are, you can still be selfish and recognize that attacking transgender rights is also attacking YOUR rights.
If you are referring to the commenter, I think their point is that the fear is irrational in large part because it’s such a small group of people.
I would add to that, there’s no evidence that being trans itself has caused anyone any harm. Even studies of gender affirming treatment shows that an overwhelming number of people treated see an increased quality of life afterwards (98% or more, with the reduce quality being attributed mainly to increased transphobia from others, not regret of the treatment itself).
ya know, i’ve been an ally for a long fucking time
but simply pointing out it sure looks like this is the exact same playbook that put trump in office again and sparked this nightmare leads to downvote brigade
this is the fucking stupid ass shit that causes divide and leads to bad people gaining power, that’s all i’m trying to fucking say in here
My take has been: Vote for what’s right in the primaries. Vote for what’s practical in the general. Rinse & repeat. It’s either that, or give us some sort of ranking option so we can do some semblance of risk mitigation between the two corporate parties.
I voted for candidates in the primary. And for the most part, I’ll sadly be voting against the more-bad candidates in the general to ensure the greatest likelihood of defeat for the more-bad candidates that I can accomplish with my one little vote.
Edit to add: the timing of the article smells weird to me, as if to suppress Democratic turnout in November.
How’s that working out for you?
Suppressing turnout is always the point. Telling you the gov’t can’t fix things and that you should check the fuck out is the point. The status quo is what they want*, its the game they have rigged and control. If voting didnt matter they wouldnt put so much effort in keeping people from doing it or convincing you to stay home.
The dems are 99% ass, but the GOP would imprison trans people as groomers for taking a dump in the girls room. Its not even close and I’m tired of people’s suggesting staying at home will get them better choices next time.
Can always count on there being a cis person that thinks they know trans issues better than actual trans people.
Remember, trans people are apparently numerous enough to owe our votes to Democrats, but we’re not numerous enough to have our issues be included as basic litmus tests of party candidate eligibility.
Maybe you should have some humility and stop acting like minorities owe you anything after you betray them.
Hol’up…
Where did you get the idea that “trans people are numerous enough”? Numerous in what, exactly? To swing an election?
I’m so confused by all the stuff you’re posting around here. It seems you are VERY misinformed about your position in society as a member of a group, and how that affects US elections at large.
I’m not saying to hold back on your swings or anything, but the crazy vitriol you’re spouting off just seems to say you’re making some wild assumptions that will not play out…
You don’t represent all of us, slow your role. Jesus Christ can we at least keep the actual real fascists out of office while working on making things better at the same time?
I’m not claiming the trans folk owe the dems shit. I am say the least I can do for marginalized groups is hold my nose and vote for the people who currently aren’t executing policy to harm those groups.
That doesn’t really work unless the candidate is honest in the primary. So you vote for someone thinking they’re one way and they double cross you.
Yes this is also about Fetterman
Bottom line: Everything sucks and will forever. Because people suck and always will.
Vote out of spite.
man if pro pally or trans folks think the dems have abandoned them, they need to fucking check themselves
anti dem propoganda like this is bullshit
You can always count on two things when a trans person points out how trans people are being taken for a ride by the democrats:
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There will be a cis person there to haughtily explain “lesser of evil” math, as if you’re just a stupid tr#nny who is too dumb to understand it, rather than someone who is fully aware of the argument and recognizes that it’s complete bullshit.
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There will be a cis person there calling the trans person a foreign agent or Republican plant. Remember, liberals want your vote, not your voice.
Thank you for proving me right.
Lol you are so wildly off base it’s actually hilarious
Edit: I’m trans, ya big ole goofball
It’s realpolitiks and it’s nasty but frankly speaking not much can be done within the current political system and the actions that can be done without said system most folks don’t have the taste for and the police state makes it pretty damned hard to enact and get away with it. Personally I wish we could just murder and string up every politically powerful transphobe and transphobe enabler but that’s how you suicide by cop as of right now and would be politically damaging.
It’s a well known issue amongst those of us who are more traditional rednecks, sure you could just shoot the anti-worker pissrag but that by itself is ineffective unless you keep doing it and with modern forensics and surveillance the old ways simply are ineffective.
But I’ll also admit that my baseline reaction to any authoritarians is basically to just want to kill them. Can’t really see past that but in this case I can’t really theorize how to get politicians to just shut the fuck up beyond putting a knife to their throat and asking about their life insurance policy so FUBAR.
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OP didn’t even read the article they posted before providing commentary as if they did…
What’s the point of including an article if you didn’t even read it???
Look…just going to be super honest here and say a Super Minority group of maybe 1-2% making electoral threats doesn’t math out, and in the bigger picture of things happening right now only amounts to extortion, and the Gay Community at large can explain to you why this doesn’t work in great detail.
The words you posted don’t even match the tenor of the article you’ve linked, so I’m feeling this is just a misguided way of putting some bluster out there. At best, you need to side with the people trying to protect you, but in the realm of all logic you’ve apparently decided to make a threat towards them if you don’t get exactly all the things you want on your checklist.
It’s like yelling “You better give me the money, or I’m going to rob this bank here” to the cops, but you’re standing in a Wendy’s parking lot, and you have no weapons.
Just what the world needs. Attacks on the left wing to help justify Republicans again…
It’s bullshit posts like this which is why Trump won the last election.
Left wingers made such a huge deal about a single issue, that they didn’t vote, and allowed a convicted sex offender to win, who has LITERALLY now personally authorised direct war crimes
There’s a billion fucking reasons to vote for Dems regardless. I’m in Australia, but visited America recently, and I realised, many American’s don’t even realise half of the shit thats happening caused by Trump in and outside their country.
Trump is attacking Trans people on a daily basis, whereas, democrats aren’t. There is a huge difference, even for trans people. The idea that every single person in the party, needs to support EVERY single request by select communities to approve of them is crazy.
Its one reason also why compulsory voting (and preferential voting) works so well here in Australia. Because it forces people to pick the BEST candidate and it also allows them to pick the one they want (because, your preferences get prioritised)
right around election season
odd timing <.<
Absolutely.
It’s like writing articles "Hitlers opposition sucks because they blocked the building of 3 synagogues. Never mind the other 150 they approved, its those 3 that are important…
Oh, but they’re still better than the others, so vote for them, but complain about it until the election, which totally won’t discourage them in a country where voting isn’t mandatory
Also, just remember, the personal opinion of 2 senators is what matters.
Cool vote for trump then and shutup
You don’t owe them shit and are free to abandon them, though given the situation in the USA right now, it will be at your peril.
Lesser of two evil math indeed! If you didnt vote for Obama in 2008 due to his stance on gay marriage, you get another republican, the cultural shift would never have happened and you wouldn’t have gotten gay marriage a few years later. You kids are also too fucking militant. Its like the palestine thing, you’re not allies you’re agitators. Agitators bring resentment not change. If you cared about trans people you would recognize the less of two evils and have a coherent plan to navigate it. A plan that doesnt involve shitting your pants before every election, and sticking your head in the sand after.
Before you start i have a lot of trans friends one who just killed theirself so im a lil sensitive on the topic, and on the current administration, and especially you little shits with 0 foresight and 100 rage.
We’re here because you old shits voted how you voted. It’s been going on for the past 50+ years, and “kids these days” have a right to demand candidates that aren’t evil at all.
Your low standards led to Trump.
I will never be a single issue voter. There will never be a perfect candidate. I may disagree with a candidate on 3 of 10 things. And that’s oka, it’s better than if I disagree 7 out of 10 things on.
Time to roll over and die then I guess.
Yes, the options are bleak and the honesty is thin on the ground when it comes to politicians, but this narrative has wandered back into “chop off your nose to spite your face” territory just in time for the election. Weird how that always happens.
Doing nothing allows the absolute worst people to seize more power and hurt more people. If you’re that disillusioned by the whole process then you should be looking up schematics for guillotines, not trying to drag others down into your apathy and ruin.
