With China’s popularity rising, there has to come a point where a country’s population decides to say:
“We need to follow a Marxist-Leninist model pronto if we want to remain a functioning society, because capitalism isn’t working anymore.”
Which country is gonna say it first?

My guess goes to..

Pakistan

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    26 days ago

    marxism isn’t going to emerge because of china’s popularity. revolutions would occur if imperialism wasn’t constantly doing black ops to kill every single last communist and their mother.

    if i had to guess, it’d be somewhere in south east asia, but who knows, maybe if we don’t have genocide sam in latam a few countries here could do with a revolution.

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      Socialism is a system that via a people’s democracy mostly puts academics and engineers into power.
      What you call “democracy” is liberal democracy that mostly puts merchants/marketers and lawyers into power.

      A system that puts marketers in power and a system that rewards people for the fruits of their labor according to their ability, are incompatible because the whole job of a marketer/merchants is to profit as much as possible. And the ‘Trias Politica judiciary & law-graduated politicians’ live off of the marketer’s money so they won’t be able to stop their influence on them, unless they can scare them into submission through the fear of socialist revolutions, which they did when the Gilded Age was ending.
      That’s not possible anymore. The Soviet Union has fallen, oligarchic marketers of today are born in wealth and went through a process of ‘retire rich early or live your life chasing profit’ elimination round, unlike those in the 1930s and further automation has caused the marketers to have even more monetary power than those during the Gilded Age.

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        They’ve been doing general strikes all year. They’re cutting ties with Israel. We are WAY more fascist than Italy. We have zero healthcare and WE are paying for the fascist fundamentalist state of Israel to continue its holocaust.

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      Second wave socialist revolutions overthrowing the judiciary and merchantry, not second wave capitalist revolutions overthrowing the clergy and aristocracy/nobility.

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    China. A second socialist revolution. First, there’s actually precedent for it there. Revolutionaries could call themselves restorationists, promising to fulfill the original revolution’s abandoned mission. Maybe a version that actually empowers workers and builds bottom-up social democracy. Socialism without the authoritarianism. What better country for a socialist revolution than the one that gave us 9-9-6? China is ripe for a socialist revolution.

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      Sorry I’m going to take a swing here and say that you’re a white EuroAmerican just completely uninformed to the reality of the Chinese people, Chinese law and Chinese sentiments. You are completely detached from the reality of China. And honestly even from this short comment it doesn’t appear you have a strong grasp of Marxist theory either.

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      There’s so much wrong with your comment it’s hard to know where to begin, but definitely read theory.

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    “We need to follow a Marxist-Leninist model pronto if we want to remain a functioning society, because capitalism isn’t working anymore.”

    Aaah, the over-simplification of highly complicated changes

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    You could start by identifying the successful Marxist-Leninist country. I don’t think there is one.

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      lol, china is biggest world economy. the soviet took a famine ridden feudal country and turned it into a global power. meanwhile kkkanadians are clapping literal nazis in parliament. keep coping while your burger reich overlords annex your settler colony and you spend all of you wage on a 2m2 appartment.

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      i hope you enjoy becoming the 51st state because brainworms this extensive can only lead to annexation by the us empire.

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        I don’t think westerners would want to live in a country like China. If that’s the case, why don’t people just immigrate there?

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          Because uprooting your life and moving to a different country is really hard to do as anybody with even a minimally functioning brain would understand?

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          “if your country is so bad why don’t you move” sorta vibes

          but to answer your question, westerners have no idea what china actually is.

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            We completely agree on that. Westerners cannot conceptualize what China is really like.

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          But people are immigrating over there.
          But due to the Soviet Union collapse event, there’s still huge skepticism on how well China is performing and how badly the US is performing right now, despite the fact that China is already ahead, widening the gap at an accelerating pace and with no end in sight.
          We’re going to see a turnaround of events in speed, size and scale like we’ve never seen before.

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            Comparing the economies of China and USA is not the same thing as comparing the quality of life for Chinese and US citizens. You are somewhat correct when you say people are immigrating to China, the overwhelming majority going to China are expats. China makes it incredibly difficult to become a permanent resident.

            I would say the attractiveness of living in a socialist or even communist country is based on a lack of understanding of what that actually means.