• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      27
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      20 days ago

      Yeah it was always lies.

      It wasn’t always lies. The game changed when the other side started electing their extremists, but worse, those more in the center have done fuck-all with what power they do have to act as a check on those other elected extremists.

      I think the reason progressives are winning now is that voters have nothing to lose. Far right extremists will fuck them. Most of those closest to the center won’t help them, and there’s now a precedent of voting in extremists (currently far right) into high office.

      If anything I think the elected far right extremists were the best argument for voting for those farther left. There’s also the Overton window. 2008’s Obama championing the ACA and the 2015 Supreme Court’s Obergefell decision looks quite progressive compared to today’s centerists.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        26
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        20 days ago

        Running to the center is why fascism arrived, and Democrats have been espousing it as a strategy since the 80’s, while Democrats as a brand have basically given up on the concept that government can be a force for good in peoples lives.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          20 days ago

          Both Republicans and Democrats would run to the center for success. Bush Senior and Bush Junior were also centrist. It wasn’t just a Democrat thing.

      • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        19 days ago

        I’m surprised what happened to Roe V. Wade hasn’t happened to Obergefell

        Though I believe Democrats actually codified Obergefell into law… The “Respect For Marriage” act

    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      20 days ago

      These candidates are centrists, not leftist. The problem being the centre in US is right wing.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    20 days ago

    Espaillat lost because of his pro-AIPAC pro-genocide stance. Dumb traitor learned his lesson too late. Next step is to send his arse to the Hague along with others like him. We will be done when we send them all – repub and dem-- to the ICC in chains.

  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    19 days ago

    Meanwhile, here is Chicago the establishment dems have such an unbelievable stranglehold on their positions that getting progressives through the door is such an uphill battle it’s not even funny.