I have one outstanding order that is already out for delivery. Once I get that, I’m closing my amazon account. I’m done. Buy nothing. Vote with your wallet. Edit: account is closed. get bent Bozos.
I tried to save yall by voting for Kamala
I think the vast majority of Americans on Lemmy did the same.
same here homie, same here.
Deleting LGBTQ policies is nothing compared to the slow drum of global warming that might wipe us out as a species.
I tried to save y’all by advocating for third parties, who would actually bring in the same level of EO you’re seeing from Trump but instead to focus on education, military cuts, and moving towards green and nuclear
You’re a fool then. Voting for a third party has the exact same effect as not voting, and in this election, that effect was also supporting Trump. Get your head out of the fantasyland.
People like you are part of the problem.
“I tried to save you from the empire by voting for the empire”
Honestly, fuck Americans and their insane discourse. Absolutely psychotic, delusional, brainwashed bullshit. You have NO fucking clue what is happening on this planet. This society is a plague on the world, just unleashing an endless series of massacres, and none of you even understand why.
The fact that you would vote for someone complicit in genocide, without even figuring out WHY, and actually think you did something GOOD. My fucking god. And nobody reply to me with this “Trump would have been 5% worse” bullshit, because I’m done hearing it. You are not the heroes of the story. You’ve been indoctrinated to support “global military empire lite” with your fear of “global military empire original”. You sacrifice the lives of the victims of the empire for your illusion of democracy and quality of living, that never existed in the first place. Stop fucking patting yourselves on the back.
Brooooo, it’s not like any of us were thrilled with Kamala either. But in comparison to Trump I was excited for her.
Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.
People like you tend to protest by not voting at all, or voting third party (which is essentially the same under our current structure). If we had compulsory voting, I highly doubt Trump would have won.
The problem is it’s not a choice between good and better, it’s a choice between bad and worse. We’re hitting the point where the lesser of two evils choices are hitting critical mass.
Aside from not taking a firm stance on Israel, I didn’t have any huge problems with Kamala. I figured she was just holding back on criticism since AIPAC has the power to essentially end careers. That’s probably too optimistic.
“Figured”, “probably” - these are not the levels of certainty you should have on your conclusions regarding a genocide.
Considering I was absolutely certain trump would make it worse, I was okay with mild uncertainty.
Let me rephrase it. You are not meeting the standards of research required to effectively participate in a democracy.
Just bad is still lesser evil. Exactly how the fuck are we supposed to do better than that in an FTTP system? And to be quite frank, Im trying to avoid genocide at home
Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.
People like you tend to protest by not voting at all, or voting third party (which is essentially the same under our current structure). If we had compulsory voting, I highly doubt Trump would have won.
No single drop of water blames itself for the flood. There are 240 million eligible voters, who all have the choice, collectively and individually, to vote for ANYONE. Somehow you are all completely incapable of blaming the entire group for its continual decisions to vote for war criminals and genociders. Rather, you completely invert the blame onto those who DON’T vote for those people. Literally, you ignore the blame for the only people actually responsible, and instead blame the only people NOT responsible. Given the massive efforts to brainwash the public regarding this political system, it’s nearly impossible to not see this as a product of brainwashing as well, because this self-defeating pattern completely neuters any attempt for real political change.
By the way, the Senate just voted 99-0 to confirm Marco Rubio. Including Bernie Sanders, Van Hollen, Booker, Warren, every Democrat. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00008.htm Explain that to me once you get done explaining how the Democrats are really the underdog opposition.
Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.
Also, no, they fucking don’t. The system presenting you with these manufactured options continually clamps down its chokehold on the world as you continue on in your delusion of political choice. It absolutely boggles my fucking mind how after a year and a half of open genocide you think there’s some kind of autonomy between the Democrats and Republicans.
Do you not understand how FTTP works? Theres too many liberals who genuinely want empire lite, trying to make an actual progressive happen outside the party would just split the left-of-trump vote
There is no solution for a population voting incorrectly than for them to correct their behavior. You have no point.
Well there’s a few, but encouraging them would get me banned. Unfortunately, most peoppe are NPCs, robots made of gore who act entirely in accordance with natural instinct and emotion, you have to politic around that or nothing will get done
So, the choices were donvict or Biden/Kamala. That’s it. You don’t have to like it (and I certainly don’t), but that’s just reality.
Remember what happened with Bernie Sanders 8 years ago?
He lost the primary fair and square. And because unlike many of his voters he could acknowledge this. He worked with the party to make those primary elections even more democratic in the future. Bernie actually got shit done. Unlike the people performing outrage he doesn’t feel on his behalf. Actively working against Sanders accomplishing anything through the Democratic party. Because they didn’t like the parties primary election rules which were changed because of Sanders.
To borrow a phrase from Gandhi. I like your Bernie. I do not like your Bernie bros. Your Bernie bros are so unlike your Bernie.
I’m talking about throwing everything against him when he was the best for the job, unlike Hillary.
Your depiction of “the choices” is factually incorrect. The population had the ability to run with any candidate whatsoever. You “chose” (or rather, were handed) two war criminal psychopaths to vote for.
You are in a prison of your own creation.
The not-republicans are a coalition of actual progressives and diet imperialism. Working outside the parry just splits the vote
Someone doesn’t like genocide, geesh.
How about “I’m the only one of you actually judging this godforesaken system objectively, by its merits, which are nonexistent”.
We won’t survive this.
But if we did, it would be my greatest wish that everyone understands this was all brought to you by tolerance of Greed and capitalism.
Greedy people are a blight on humanity and mentally ill in a serial killer, society must be protected from them way.
But unfortunately, since most here still see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires that don’t want to be part of society but live above it, they’ll blame everything but. In that respect, maybe my first point is a silver lining.
Greedy people didn’t survive the French Revolution. Just saying.
Maybe someday I’ll be a millionaire. Hopefully it won’t be at the same time a loaf of bread is $100 and a million dollars is poverty.
That’s a weird graph. Why does each label have 2 bars?
because saying 0-10% 11%-20% 21%-30% 31%-40% 41%-50% 51%-60% 61%-70% 71%-80% 81%-90% 91%-100% would create a label so fucking long.
It’s implied that each grouping is the top 10% and bottom 10% of each 20% range, to me anyway.
Especially with the tallest having an extra label stating “top 10%”
I wonder where the line of being able to afford food and housing would be in each graph and what is the percent of people bellow that. I think that’s the important factor signifying how desperate people really are.
Personally I think graph is pretty egregious as long as we have a homeless or poverty problem to discuss, regardless of where the line of desperation is. We know people are under it, and not just a few. Not to mention the high percentage of middle class that are a paycheck or two from being unhoused.
Don’t get me wrong - I know there are many desperate people now. I’d just like to see the comparison to pre-revolution France to see just how similar the situation really is based on hard data.
Ah I get your point. That would be interesting!
Oh yeah, by all means, stop using all Amazon related services, then realize that about 50% of web services for banking, agriculture, logistics, infrastructure, telecommunications, research and development, industry, transportation, healthcare and energy are hosted on AWS
“Oh but my service is hosted on GCP”
Yeah and what do you think is the fallback in case of DRP?
I mean we can all do our small part. 🤷♂️ Something is better than nothing.
Yes AWS is the standard for most of the internet, but do you think Amazon won’t notice if a whole bunch of users en masse decide to stop buying things from their warehouses?
I think their store is but a fraction of what they make in AWS, but you have a point.
Oh the users win DEFINITELY notice when the second order effects of pulling out of current infraestructure without a plan just for dubious ideological reasons start to manifest
What?
Did you ever live in a world before Amazon? People still shipped goods and went shopping
My dude, that is literally the least profitable part of their business and not the one I’m talking about.
They have much more built out offerings, but smaller hosting providers and on-premise are always an option regardless. Obviously not including “Azure”.
If your load is stable and predictable then onprem is also cheaper.
Good then that loads never change, growth never happens, users never drop off your platform, demand is always the same and everything related to users is never dynamic, but static as fuck
Yes. That is exactly what some B2B customers want. You can still grow month to month, and adapt your onprem infrastructure accordingly.
Obviously this approach is extremely dependent on the underlying use case and business model. Unlikely to be suitable for B2C.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t vote with your wallet, but it is basically in vain. Amazon is all but a tax subsidy at this point.
Don’t worry guys, all these corporations will bring back those pretty rainbow logos for Pride Month™ and all will be forgotten.
except this will be the start of the year they stop doing that, because now it becomes the “popular” side to not support it.
Oh, you know trump will issue an EP revoking Pride Month, and all the businesses will forget about it. It makes me sick.
“Democracy dies in darkness” said the guy turning off the fucking lights
For those that are unaware, it’s the slogan of The Washington Post, which Bezos owns.
Sounds like another great reason for Amazon workers to organize a labor union.
Okie-dokie.
I guess I can delete “slow down if I see Jeff Bezos crossing the street” from my policies.
Fun fact, almost any complaint, even one extremely minor, will often make Amazon’s customer support chat assistants give you a full refund. They’ll even let you not worry about shipping the item back if you say you don’t want to because it’s not your problem.
This surely doesn’t lose Amazon money at all, and definitely isn’t something that works with almost any item you buy on Amazon, of nearly any value or quality. Definitely don’t do this just because you want Amazon to lose money.
Worth checking to see if the thing you are getting refunded for is sold directly from Amazon or if it’s from a “store”. Often times the “store” could just be some bloke trying to make some money using Amazon. If you get refunded for one of those, they take it from that store, not their own coffers.
Oh yeah, of course, but sold and shipped by Amazon (or other large brands) products are still the majority though. That or dropshippers that are adding 400% markups that don’t exactly have the greatest moral standing for why their crappily-made product deserves to be sold for $40.
My rule of thumb is, if it’s made by a major corporation, or clearly dropshipped, and it has any physical or visual flaws that were not likely based on the listing, or not what you’d expect for the price, then it’s fair game. (e.g. gloves developing significant wear within a couple weeks, color of lights not matching the tone or vibrancy in the listing, unexplained scratches/dents that raise concern over the integrity of the product, USB speeds not as fast as advertised, etc)
I don’t tend to buy from small sellers on Amazon, since I buy from them elsewhere, so I’ve never had to deal with that dilemma myself.
Way ahead of ya pal. I haven’t used Amazon in over 5 years
Well I guess it’s a good thing I have begun my 4 years of austerity. I am not spending one dime more than I need to for necessities. I cancelled Amazon Prime a year ago and will be making every effort to buy whatever necessities I usually would get from there elsewhere.
I’m actually doing the same. I’m going to really consider, to the best of my ability, and with the best information available, the political background of the things I spend my money on. If I -need- a semi-frivolous thing, I’ll buy from a blue state or used on eBay. No hiring of the trades for me; if I can’t do it myself, I probably don’t need it that bad (I live in a red state). No Amazon, Facebook, and especially no Tesla (not that I was ever interested in the first place). I will try to support artists and other people who have a politically agreeable mission, however.
What’s the worst that can happen? I end up with a giant pile of money I would have blown? I’m fine with that.
I’m glad people like you exist. I’ve cut down spending through COVID and have been mostly in bunker mode living well below my means and paying off my mortgage. I don’t owe anything to anyone outside of land tax and some utilities. I’m late to the game removing Amazon from the picture, but my last order has already been made. What sucks is I thought after a few years of hunkering down things would finally get better and I’d be in a great position to move forward. I hope more and more people join this effort. I see this as being AS important as the 2nd amendment. The right to bare arms is useless if you have to fight an entity with most of the money, major parts of the supply chain, and all the intel.
These idiots have made a mistake, the pendulum always swings back and most Americans didn’t vote for Trump.
I hope they don’t expect to be welcomed back with open arms once it does.
We’re you asleep a couple months ago… They were welcomed back with open arms…
I know…
I usually attempt to buy from other sources, but they are fully ingrained in the online market to the point that other vendors usually drop ship from them, sometimes even if there’s no price difference because they get commercial discounts that consumers don’t.
I haven’t bought on Amazon in 6 years. When marketplace vendors from other sites ship Amazon packages to me, I usually report them. I’ve had two of the marketplaces reply that they had no policy against this, and I let them know that I will choose to shop elsewhere from now on.
It really hasn’t been very much trouble to avoid buying from Amazon. There’s no shortage of online shops, and Amazon’s prices aren’t always lower like they used to be.
It’s been two years for me and I don’t miss them. I have had good success going direct to the manufacturer. And if the manufacturer doesn’t sell direct, they list alternatives to Amazon.
And honestly, I go without things too. Amazon having everything available makes it too easy to buy random crap. I don’t need to have every bit and bob which makes my impulse buying generally a thing of the past.
@[email protected] You can’t use WalMart either. And didn’t Target remove things after literal in-store attacks by chuds?
What’s your game plan? It can’t be the mall…
And if avoiding using Amazon products is your goal, then large swaths of the internet are off the table too.
I’m not trying to be a jerk. Just illustrating how the oligarchs got us over a barrel when it comes to voting with our patronage.
Maybe there’s more to the Target stuff, but it’s a little tough for me to heavily criticize them for pulling merch that was getting employees threatened and hurt. I still wish they’d have stuck to their guns and found a way to protect their workers. I think personally what’s worse was the Bud Light debacle. They caved because of profits, not dangers, and passed off both sides.
