Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes said during an interview that residents could fire upon ICE agents who are masked if they feel they are in danger.

A masked guy breaks down your door w/o an Article III warrant absent exigent circumstances? Yeah, I’d agree. Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

  • ClassStruggle@lemmy.mlEnglish
    28·
    16 hours ago

    Texas says if I feel threatened on my property, in my car, or at my job, I can shoot first and ask questions later. As a minority I don’t have the luxury of time to determine if you are a threat to my existence.

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
    14·
    18 hours ago

    The only problem I see, when the MAGA fucknut ICE goons assault a MAGA fucknut minority home owner, are the stray bullets zipping all over place. Yep, it’s going to be a Cluster Fuck.

    • BanMe@lemmy.world
      1·
      10 hours ago

      Given how these days, simply ringing a doorbell (usually a geezer) s enough to get you shot to death, I am surprised it’s not happened yet.

  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
    58·
    1 day ago

    Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

    Federal prosecutors are having a real tough time getting juries to convict, and sometimes even indict, citizens accused of assaulting ICE and CBP agents. They have 30 cases against Chicago residents, and so far they’re 0 for 15. They couldn’t get a felony indictment for the sandwich-throwing guy in DC, so they went for a misdemeanor; he was aquitted despite clearly having done it. It is not at all clear to me that the feds could get a conviction for killing someone during what is, legally, a home invasion.

    (This is not an incitement of violence towards any federal agents, nor am I advocating for anyone to break any state or federal laws. To any FBI agents reading this, I think you’re very smart and handsome.)

  • Formfiller@lemmy.world
    4·
    23 hours ago

    So does the constitution. I think we should start building like home alone style trap houses for these Nazi scum

  • bigmamoth@lemmy.world
    94·
    20 hours ago

    just need someone to try and find out. Guys, im trolling ? Like hello in what world you shoot police and think your in the right ?

    guys ?

    im serious dont be dumb

    • aesthelete@lemmy.world
      2·
      18 hours ago

      Kenneth Walker shot police and Kenneth Walker was not only in the right, he was adjudicated on the matter and found not guilty by a jury of his peers:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor

      Masked, warrantless federal thugs that are indistinguishable from home invaders will eventually be shot or even killed. There are reasons that the police operate the way they do, and they are usually not out of the good of their heart.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      22 hours ago

      I cant remember the full details, but I do recall there was years ago where police busted into a house without a warrant (wrong house or something), didnt identify themselves, and the home owner… who I think was former military? Opened fire and took several of them out.

      and was found innocent in the resulting trial.

      • obvs@lemmy.world
        1·
        18 hours ago

        But even better than that, he lived through the initial encounter and made it to the trial.

      • bigmamoth@lemmy.world
        11·
        21 hours ago

        something to do with identification, the fact you have saw them. Even if i was swat i wouldnt really like to burst in the home of a veterant withou making them known im law enforcement. You have sevral story like that. They doesnt apply to ice. I was trolling. Dont try to use violence and force against ice.