• salacious_coaster@infosec.pub
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    11 days ago

    Give it a minute. The American general public had at least ten years to get familiar with Trump and what he’s about. His plans for this year were not hidden, even a little bit. They voted him in again anyway just a year ago. Now they’re acting like this was all an unexpected shock.

    All we learned from this week is that Americans are capable of remembering not to put their hand on the hot stove a third time, provided their other hand is still on the same hot stove from the second time.

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      The American general public had at least ten years to get familiar with Trump and what he’s about.

      Far longer than that.

      He’s been known publicly as a sack of shit since at least the '90s.

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        But then puffed up as a genius business man by The Apprentice. Remember that most people the world over are absolutely rock-stupid and will believe whatever’s on TV. “He ripped off everyone he ever did business with and bankrupted every company he ever started” “Whatever, I like the way he says ‘You’re fired!’ He must be great at businessing!”

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    He’s too narcissistic to even realize the irony that it is his policies, his incompetent appointees, and his apoplectic abuse that is crashing the GOP. It is insane that the meltdown has been this glacially paced.

    He’ll be back; we’re in the devaluation phase of the narcissistic abuse cycle. Next, he’ll try to discard the whole party to start his own. When his finds that unworkable, he’ll come slithering back.

    Let’s just hope this time most republicans will be too exhausted to continue propagandizing themselves with Trump’s inane double-think.

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      11 days ago

      America, the abused house wife, is realizing how abusive their husband is … again.

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    I don’t understand how the working class folks “shifted” to Democratic party.

    Haven’t the democrats been the working class party all along?

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      Citizens United made bribery legal, and the working class has been broken down for decades and forced into poverty.

      There is no American “working class” party, because they can’t afford to bribe any of the parties. Democrats sorta kinda pretend to care, occasionally, so they are currently wearing the mantle.

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      Working class people tend to be less-educated, live in more rural areas, be a part of less-diverse communities, and be prone to accept authority figures. And the GOP has spent a half-century trying to convince that exact group that every problem they’re experiencing is actually the opposite. So they vote against their best interests in election after election, and then the people they voted for successfully convince them that the Democrats actually torpedoed it all and they could’ve actually made everything better if they just had one more term…rinse and repeat across 25+ election cycles.

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      I’m terms of policy, yes. But a lot of dipshit blue collar workers believe the propaganda from Fox News and adjacent outlets, and their propaganda says that the republican party is the party of the working class, so a lot of the working class votes republican. These people believe what they’re told instead of using critical thinking skills to observe and analyze the actual actions taking place. Some of them are finally starting to wake up, but they’ll fall back asleep the moment somebody more palatable than trump rises up and keeps the pain focused on marginalized groups instead of leaking out to hurt rural whites so much and so obviously.

      I hope that AI development makes the internet and social media so dogshit that it pushes people to spend less time in online echo chamber spaces and more time in person with actual people face to face. We’re radically divided due to algorithms slapping us with culture war bullshit, so we’re forgetting that so many of us are united in wanting comfortable homes, affordable food, leisure time and money to enjoy with our families, and peace of mind that we’re safe and secure. Crying about trans athletes does nothing for my family, but my father in law being furloughed during this shutdown due to an insistence on taking healthcare away from my sister sure as shit impacts my family.

      Of course I don’t want people to suffer, but some people will just never see what the fuck is actually happening until it affects them or people close to them. And those of us who already know are just that much more pissed off when these people only just now start to figure it out and cry for help now that it’s hurting somebody other than the out group. And it’s gonna be extra infuriating when they forget all about the pain they were finally exposed to and turn around and vote for it all over again. Mark my words, trump is not the last fascist these people will have sold their decency to support. They will forget where it got them within weeks.

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        I hope that AI development makes the internet and social media so dogshit that it pushes people to spend less time in online echo chamber spaces and more time in person with actual people face to face.

        I sure would love that to happen, but my more cynical self sees the incel broligarchy-loving types and how they look forward to the day when females will be put in their place by having a compliant robot wife instead, not having to worry about a woman “taking all their money” and so on…

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          They can have their advanced waifu bodypillows, and I’ll still make fun of them like I do the weebs with their regular waifu bodypillows.

          But realistically, the broligarchy manchildren are the exact people who worship Elon Musk, and Elon Musk is the exact guy championing the idea that white birthrate decline is a horrible tragedy and we need to have more white babies. These losers will need to choose between their robo waifus and their techbro visionary prophet, and musk will have to choose between making the product in demand by his fans or his Nazi white genocide ideology.

          I think they’re most likely to agree on trying to making all women into free use breeding objects that “real alpha men” are allowed to stake claim on without consequence. In other words, legalize rape for white men. It sounds absurd, but five years ago you wouldn’t have believed me if I’d told you that he’d do some public sieg heil Nazi salutes within a few years.

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        Hasn’t been one in the anglosphere in general for a long time. The NDP is the closest but they’ve given up their working class cred years ago. And labor, well, if Blair didn’t convince you they were a lost cause Starmer will. I’m not familiar enough with auspol but I’d imagine the trend holds.

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      Theoretically. In, practice, not so much, but far more than the Republicans, and that’s the problem with the neo-liberal Democrat party.

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    USA according to tRump: Dead country, dead parties… jeeze, what’s next a dead president?!

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      what’s next a dead president?!

      I’d be OK with Trump killing that guy.