Summary
The House GOP’s new rules package aims to weaken minority party influence while advancing a pro-corporate agenda.
Key provisions include shielding the House speaker from bipartisan accountability and fast-tracking 12 GOP bills without allowing amendments, including measures to sanction the International Criminal Court (ICC) and protect fracking.
Democrats, led by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), criticized the package for ignoring economic and social issues like inflation and housing while prioritizing tax cuts for billionaires.
Republicans plan to offset these costs by slashing social programs, sparking warnings of further congressional dysfunction.
But they did vote for it?
Right? Like, this is who we are, and who we are is stupid and easily manipulated.
You don’t get to vote outside of your own state for senators or representatives. Voting in your state doesn’t change the fact that other states have different priorities, and sometimes it feels like they’re just completely out of touch. My state has a Democratic majority in almost every part of our government, yet we’re still stuck with a president and federal government that most people here didn’t want or vote for. It’s frustrating because the system lets other states have so much power in choosing the president, even when it doesn’t reflect the will of people in places like mine.
Add up the total votes from each state that voted for this and won. Exclude states that they didn’t win in. It’s about 10% of the total population of the U.S.
That’s a crazy system you have when 90% vote against something and they still win? You should fix that.
The majority did not.
The majority of people who showed up to vote did. Trump won the popular vote this time. The GOP were given control of every branch of government, and made gains in several state governments as well.
tyranny of the minority
Do you just not understand how numbers work? Of the number of people who showed up to be counted, ie the ones invested enough to still give a fuck one way or another, more people voted for this than against it. That may not necessarily reflect the sentiments or ideology of the entire population. But if they wanted to be counted then they should have shown the fuck up. Bitch all you want about tyrants and tyranny because it’s fucking here. But stop kidding yourself that these people are still real underdogs in the grand scheme. Their ideology and dumbfuckitude is absolutely gaining ground and pretending it isn’t just adds another blind spot to be exploited.
the sentence doesn’t say some Americans voted for this
If it did, I’d agree.
The majority who didn’t vote saw a cookie-cutter politician and an authoritarian man-baby and thought, “Eh, either is fine.” So their “vote” went to the majority winner. There are no redos because not enough people showed up.
That is a problem, but they did not endorse this.
If someone sat at home on election day or voted for anyone but Harris they absolutely endorsed this. They should go to their graves knowing every single thing Trump and crew does is because they allowed it to happen.
I think many are too low-info to really have endorsed anything.
There’s got to be a line where “low-info” becomes a choice. I don’t know where that line is, but “Donald Trump is an imminent threat to democracy” is absolutely past that threshold.
I’d have to say a whole lot of people are completely checked out of any kind of civic engagement whatsoever, for probably a plethora of reasons. There are definitely some that think they can be Above It All ™ because I Don’t Want To Be Political ™, and in my experience these people are insufferable smug jackasses about it, too.
Wait, I thought Lemmy was blaming billionaires who have a stranglehold on churches, media, and education.
I would blame both. The malfeasance from the oligarchs doesn’t absolve any individual of blame for their own individual actions. Both groups are assholes in different ways.
Inaction is a choice that says I don’t care about the outcome. It’s an equal endorsement of facists and neolibs.
Of course they did. When it comes to voting, silence is consent.
Does that mean those on Lemmy who told me not to vote for “both sides” consented?
Yes. The people on Lemmy encouraging people not to vote for Harris definitely consented to this.
But they said we’d revolt next, so they sounded like they don’t want this.
This “but he didn’t get >50% popular vote” is an ineffectual cop out. It does not matter in any sense. It’s grasping at straws.
But they did
77,301,997voted for Donald269,823,374did not vote for himEdit: I forgot to subtract the 77m Donald voters from my all American adult voters number. So the second number is closer to 200 million. But still more than the Donald voters.
And of those, 108,403,374 were ineligible to vote, and 77,303,573 voted for Trump. The rest decided to stay home fully knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.
The majority of voters absolutely voted for Trump, or at the very least stepped aside and allowed others to return him to power.
Either way, the result is the same. The American people voted for this, and they are about to get exactly what they voted for.
Why are any American voters ineligible? Even if they are, they are Americans who did not vote for this. They are not represented in government.
A minority of Americans voted for this.
This is all spelled out in the Constitution. For better or worse, you can’t just ignore the parts of the Constitution you don’t like.
By this logic, a minority of Americans voted for literally every vote in the history of the country. A minority of Americans also voted for Biden in 2020. Or Obama in 2008 and 2012. You can’t just use this as an excuse when you don’t like the results.
I may have down my math wrong, but I subtracted minors. Though there’s a case that 16-18 year olds should vote.
I do think I forgot to subtract those in favor of Donald though, now that I think of it.
If they’re not citizens, they are not Americans, right?
Felons should be voting if they’re adult citizens.
Is there an intelligence requirement for voting?
There would still be plenty of non-voting children. And with 16-18 year olds, the case is there but it’s a case of being careful what you wish for. You open up a pandoras box of a bunch of willingly-uninformed voters (because most kids don’t care about politics), along with a bunch of teenagers who aren’t concerned about the consequences of their actions and would gladly vote for a shitty candidate “for the lulz”. Personally, I see it as a case where you’d be flooding the polls with so many uninformed voters and intentional trolls that the results would essentially be up to random chance. But I do agree that there’s a case to be made, even if I think it’s a terrible idea.
In principle, I agree with you. I’m just saying that this is stated in the Constitution and we cannot just ignore the parts of the Constitution we don’t like.
No. If Jim the meth-head and his sister/wife want to head down to the polls, they should absolutely have the right to do so. But I was talking about people who do not have the mental capacity to vote. People with severe Down Syndrome, for example. Non-verbal people with special needs. Dementia patients. Those with mental health disorders who think that the people of Jupiter are trying to read their thoughts by using laser beams disguised as rainbows.
I would also include elderly people in nursing homes, hospitalized people, and people who are otherwise unable to exercise their right to vote because of forces outside of their control. They should have the right to vote but are often prevented from doing so, even if only because of simple things like staff members being unwilling to bring them to the polls.
That sounds strange. Who did all the other people vote for? Why is that other person not going to be president with so many votes?
1/3 of eligible voters did not vote (for or against Donald)
So they were okay with Trump being president?