With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.

The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.

“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”

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    It’s a budget, he needs 50 votes and there’s 53 senators with a R by their names…

    If there’s a shutdown it’s cuz trump ordered it.

    Schumer “negotiating” just makes it easier for idiots to blame it on Dems.

    Mainstream media at large is acting like budget reconciliation isn’t a thing…

    The procedure overrides the Senate’s filibuster rules, which may otherwise require a sixty-vote supermajority for passage. Bills described as reconciliation bills can pass the Senate by a simple majority of fifty-one votes or fifty votes plus the vice president’s as the tie-breaker.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)

    trump doesn’t need a single D vote in the House or Senate to pass a budget, he just doesn’t want to

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      This is a funding bill, which is different than the budget/reconciliation process. He needs 60 votes.

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        You think “budget reconciliation” which was literally invented to make sure a budget is passed…

        Doesn’t apply to the annual budget, which has been passed by budget reconciliation for like a decade straight?

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          Budget reconciliation is the bill of sale, the funding measure is the credit card. They need 60 votes to get the credit card to pay the bill. This is the only negotiation tactic the dems have in their possession. That’s why they are making their bones on the ACA funding. Tens of millions of Americans rely upon those subsidies to afford health insurance. The dems just have to make sure that the people know what’s at stake. A job they are notoriously bad at.

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        All the more reason to use it once the new fiscal year starts…

        If Schumer caves, they can abuse the rule and pass something 1000x times shittier under reconciliation.

        They were able to pass that a few months ago, because they didn’t use reconciliation for last year’s budget, it was just a CR all year

        Which is likely what will happen again, and why Schumer would be a giant fucking idiot to negotiate just so Republicans don’t have to use it.

        Like, good point, but it just brings us full circle.

        Quick edit:

        Because Senate can use reconciliation once a fiscal year