Nothing at all? No thoughts? No prayers?
I love to talk to conservatives about this since i used to be a HUGE conservative and gun owner, till i got out of certain echo chambers and realized what was going on.
I will gladly have a factual, calm conversation about why we need gun control now and why the GOP has left their base behind. But no one will even have this conversation because the instant they hear the words “gun control,” they get really defensive and the whole conversation is ruined.
But thoughts and prayers…
I love to talk to conservatives about this since i used to be a HUGE conservative and gun owner, till i got out of certain echo chambers and realized what was going on.
I will gladly have a factual, calm conversation about why we need gun control now and why the GOP has left their base behind. But no one will even have this conversation because the instant they hear the words “gun control,” they get really defensive and the whole conversation is ruined.
But thoughts and prayers…
What do you mean nothing, “they are sending thoughts and prayers…”
Don’t miscount their lack of action as a negligence. It’s actually intentional because they want the mass shootings. When mass shootings happen, the Republicans jump up and clap hands with glee. They like that people are dying from their “lack of action”. It furthers the police state that they want; kills voters that opposes them; undermines the premise of society’s functionality in things like public education, public functionality, and the public’s trust in rescue (remember that cop who stood outsidein Parkland?); and benefits their donors.
But “absolutely nothing” is what they’re good at.
The gop never does anything when there is a shooting. They don’t care and they never will.
Oh no
He slammed them
slams
Honestly, I’m more tired of people bringing this up than of seeing it in headlines.
How news and headlines are presented are meant to grab your attention, and it’s definitely working because they continue to do it!
Both written and spoken language are forever evolving, and right now this is how the news is written. Seeing nonsense comments like this on almost every single article is just boring and doesn’t add anything to the discussion.
In a couple years headlines will be using some other hot ticket words to keep things fresh.
Honestly, I’m more tired of people bringing this up than of seeing it in headlines.
Refreshing to see someone put on the “They Lives” glasses and see through the bogus headlines.
Both written and spoken language are forever evolving
Gross. Please do that in private.
You’ll have to explain that first part for me. What are “They Lives” glasses?
nonsense
The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines nonsense as words or language having no meaning or no intelligible ideas.
Yes, your single word quote comments are nonsense.
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Darn, I wanted Blasts.
Duh dun ah
Let the boys be boys
As long as he is suggesting that we fix the societal issues we face and not disarm ourselves while a fascist gov is literally sending soldiers into the streets and arming ICE like they’re in a fucking war…sure.
I’m sure the white house will send out “thoughts and prayers” within the next few business days.
They were literally killed in the middle of “thoughts and prayers” it didn’t seem to work for them. Maybe their god was one of the wrong ones.
They’ll call it a hate crime against Christians and throw out the whole “most persecuted religion” argument out against.
https://lemmy.world/post/35093128
Fox’s Rachel Campos-Duffy Declares ‘Christians Are the Most Persecuted Religion in the Universe’ During Segment About MN Shooting
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
They’ll call it a hate crime against Christians and throw out the whole “most persecuted religion” argument out against.
Edit: Oops, replied to the wrong person. Thank you for your attention to the matter.
This one? Nah they’ll send ICE.
Probably blame it on the trans epidemic as well.
Have they ever not done nothing ?
No, they sometimes tell their followers to go but more guns and ammo.
Serious question:
What do you want the GOP to do?
Banning guns isn’t an option because of the 2nd Amendment.
Repealing the 2nd Amendment isn’t an option because you need 290 votes in the house, 67 votes in the Senate and 38 States to ratify the change.
Confiscating 400 million guns? Do you really trust the GOP to go house to house taking guns away?
Look, it just happened this morning so we don’t know EVERYTHING yet. The Chief of Police has said the shooter had no criminal record and bought the guns legally, assuming they had no mental health history that would have barred them, what do you want the GOP to do?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/27/us/robin-westman-minneapolis-church-shooting-suspect
“A search of state court records showed no criminal history for Westman, but some traffic citations in 2021.”
https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-church-shooter-guns-permits/601462465
“Church shooter legally purchased rifle, pistol and shotgun”
If you leave it up to the GOP I guarantee their reaction will be to declare LGBTQ+ a mental illness and bar them from gun ownership based on that.
Why is it always straight to banning guns and “taking 400 million guns” when people say “what do you expect them to do?”
Gun control doesn’t mean taking away all guns, it means making sure that the people that have them are properly trained and responsible.
Agreed, which we don’t do either. In the case of this most recent shooting though, the shooter was of age, had no criminal record, and bought the guns legally… sooo… ? How do you prevent that?
Unless something comes up, as it has with other shooters, that she had some sort of mental breakdown that didn’t get reported to the background check system, there is no way to prevent it.
Look at the Parkland shooter:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolas_Cruz
His background has more red flags than a mayday parade, but because none of it went through a court and a judge, none of it appeared on his background report and he was able to buy guns legally.
“At this time, a school resource officer suggested[24] he undergo an involuntary psychiatric examination under the provisions of the Baker Act. Two guidance counselors agreed, but a mental institution did not.[25] State investigators reported he had depression, autism, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and had a history of attempting suicide. However, psychologist Frederick M. Kravitz later testified that Cruz was never diagnosed with autism.[26] In their assessment, the investigators concluded he was “at low risk of harming himself or others”.[27] He had previously received mental health treatment, but had not received treatment in the year leading up to the shooting.[8]”
You prevent that by funding mental health services and promoting a culture that encourages people to get help
+ mandatory reporting. People who need help the most wont seek it on their own.
Maybe implement a voluntary gun buyback program and tighten up gun laws like Australia? Might not have prevented this case, but it’s better than the old “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas” approach.
Gun buybacks don’t work.
https://journalistsresource.org/health/gun-buybacks-what-the-research-says/
Why? The prices offered are generally so low all they attract are ancient, unused firearms.
If you look at Australia’s plan, they made most guns illegal and requested they be turned in which still only removed some 20% of available guns from the market, some 650,000 guns.
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html
To get a similar result, the US would need to run the program with the same level of effectiveness 123 times.
Even then, 20% of Americas 400 million guns would be 80 million, we don’t have the logistics to collect and dispose of 80 million ANYTHING, much less guns.
Removing 20% of Americas guns would still leave 320 million guns out there. America is not Australia.
Thanks for the info. I know we’re in a league of our own, but the numbers are interesting and sobering.
Maybe we should consider going in the opposite direction? Require gun safety and firearms training in elementary, middle, and high school; implement first time gun buyer programs for qualifying low income Americans; ban all concealed carry permits; allow firearms in your carry-on at the airport.
I’m being facetious, but California’s Mulford Act shows Republicans can pass gun control laws if they’re terrified that their outgroups are also armed. Though I’m sure a similar law today would be entirely partisan and only apply to their opposition or something. As a sidenote, I do think everyone should have at least a basic education in gun safety.
I’d love to see training programs, not just on safety but basic maintenance, cleaning, field stripping, that sort of thing.
There are millions of guns that simply are not safe to use and their owners have NO CLUE.
I admit, I was one of them. When my father and grandfather passed away, I inherited their guns. I took my grandfathers deer rifle to a local armorer to get it checked out because I wasn’t qualified to do it.
Turned out, that particular make and model (Remington 721) had a known problem with the trigger that could cause it to misfire without touching the trigger.
https://youtu.be/NlzoMqtDUxs#t=3m57s
They cleaned it up and replaced the trigger mechanism, should be good for another 70 years.
They will just ignore it with some LGBTQ nonsense or immigration crap. All they do is deflect.
Because they are so tired of being slammed they will now have national guard at all schools and streets and homes to choke hold compliance so a shooting like this never happens unless dear leader says so
