i bet they’ve already selected zelensky’s replacement.
Juan Guaidó: PUT ME IN, COACH
And the APC he’ll get domed in
Good. Fuck Trump, and fuck Russia.
Should Ukraine fight to the last Ukrainian? The war is increasingly unpopular, and it doesn’t appear that there’s an ace up Ukraine’s sleeve to turn the tides. The longer the war rages on, the more Ukrainians and Russians die, and the worse Ukraine’s bargaining power becomes.
If you were in charge of Ukraine right now, what would you do?
When Russia first attacked, everyone thought they would roll over Ukraine in days or weeks… Are you sure a drawn out war isn’t worse for Russia then it is for Ukraine? Every day Ukraine is showing the world that Russia can’t push them around, that’s important when dealing with bullies.
They should fight until they decide not to fight, I don’t understand why anyone who isn’t Ukrainian thinks they get a say in that decision.
Nobody thought Russia would win in days or weeks, the western framing has been that that was the plan but it failed, but the Russian framing has not been that way. Further, yes, a drawn out war is absolutely worse for Ukraine, Ukraine has been steadily losing ground, the war is increasingly unpopular, and Russia is outproducing NATO in millitary equipment.
Showing brave defiance doesn’t matter at all if it costs you far more lives for an increasingly unpopular war, at some point you have to circle around to reality and understand that Russia isn’t going to stop until the 4 oblasts are theirs, Kiev stops oppressing ethnic Russians, and Ukraine promises NATO neutrality.
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I’m not a keyboard warrior, lol. I want the war to end, as quickly as possible, with the fewest lives lost as possible. My stance is similar to the Party for Socialism and Liberation’s statement as well as Freedom Road Socialist Organization’s statement. I’m a communist.
At the end of the day, Russia wants the 4 oblasts, all 4 of which are majority ethnically Russian and want to join Russia. Russia wants Ukrainian neutrality with NATO, because NATO is an alliance of imperialist nations that encircle those that maintain more control over their markets in order to scare them into letting in foreign capital. Russia also wants Ukraine to stop oppressing ethnic Russians. These are not outlandish desires. Further, Russia has the physical means to pursue these aims millitarily, Ukraine doesn’t have the means to stop them.
Ultimately, a desire to perpetuate the war is a desire to sacrifice more Ukrainians and Russians for what will ultimately be the same end result, for the only “benefit” to the west being more control of Ukrainian resources (the rare Earth deals) as well as more damage to Russia, all at the expense of Ukrainian lives. I don’t see what this accomplishes.
You don’t want the war to end as quickly as possible, you want Russia to gain territory as quickly as possible. Big difference.
I think if the areas that seceded from Ukraine that are majority ethnically Russian, that have been shelled and slaughtered by Kiev for a decade, want to join Russia, then that’s okay. That isn’t in conflict with wanting the war to end as quickly as possible, Russia has the means to pursue that aim millitarily whether Kiev agrees to it or not. Russia has no reason to expand beyond the oblasts at this point, it isn’t in this war for extraction, so it seems acceptable to me.
He only wants Poland guys, if we give him Poland then Germany will stop being aggressive!
Why do you think countries choose to go to war? Is it just vibes? An amorphous desire to grab land? Why the 4 oblasts in particular? Why would Russia want to expand beyond them? I gave a clear and coherent summary of events and motives, and you respond with a non-sequitor devoid of analysis. Are you capable of backing up your hypothesis, or is this just a distraction for you to avoid having to engage critically?
Look to my allies for help. Ukraine isn’t in the wrong for defending itself. Russia is the bad guy here.
Isn’t that what NATO is already doing? What do you forsee changing?
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But you don’t actually think that’s likely, do you? So you are advocating that Ukraine wipes themselves out even though at this point support for continuing the war is falling dramatically? To the last Ukrainian, then?
“Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows”
The empire demands bloodsport.
Of course I should listen to news about Zelensky from Russia Today News… Not surprised that this conflict of interest was posted to .ml
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Ur just parroting what western “media” wants you to. RT doesn’t cave to western narratives so the recourse for western “media” is to slander it as “propaganda”
just to putin’s narratives
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If reality had western bias then Ukraine would’ve won the war by now.
Show me you don’t read without telling me so.
Unlike you, not only do I read western media extensively, I also have reading comprehension to understand what it’s been saying.
Oddly enough, saying you comprehend different from actual comprehension.
Most Western media has been “well, Ukraine’s fucked.” “Long term, can Ukraine survive this war?”
Are you getting confused between individual battlefield/operational success versus the strategic reality?
For three whole years western media promised that Russia was on the verge of collapse both militarily and economically. They said that Russia is running out of weapons, that Russian troops fight with shovels, that Russian economy is in shambles. Turns out that literally all of it was complete and utter bullshit. Now we’re finally entering the stages where it’s no longer possible to pretend that the west can possibly win the war, and the real world is finally starting to slowly seep through the walls of the media bubble western media created.
The only one deeply confused here is you apparently.
Some people are never worth the time. Block and breathe easy.
Good words to remember!
On this one, it’s a little fun to kinda bully someone being a silly Billy. But I’ve got a note on him so if I encounter in the wild, I just ignore, giggle and move on.
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I love how you trolls use this as some gotcha.
Fifteen people are mad they have the reputation they’ve proudly demonstrated.
Mods included, now.
Don’t know much about instances (I’m just a benighted .ca user) but I suppose I should work out how to self defederate from this one if this is the usual.
Thanks!
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Another lib down!
State news apparatus of one of the belligerents blames leader of the country they invaded for “rejecting peace.”
From a negotiation that country wasn’t invited to.
Last week I kicked my neighbor’s door open, walked into the living room, and sat down on the floor with a bunch of bags of my stuff.
They got into a fight with me because they are saying I’m trespassing and a bunch of other crap. They are demanding that I leave their house after cleaning up my mess and taking my stuff back home.
I generously offered that I could stay permanently in the living room and they could keep the rest of the house, but they are refusing my peace deal! Don’t they realize that I could easily have taken over the whole downstairs, even the whole house? Besides, before their house was built, I used to walk through that empty lot all the time!
I can’t believe they want to keep fighting and making a worse mess of the living room, so illogical!
History began in February of 2022
This is literally what happens in the West Bank
This is… Not accurate. And I’m not an expert on this war.
Zelensky knows he’s out as soon as the war ends. He’s going to try to prolong it indefinitely
