• barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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      23 days ago

      Beating well-established Democratic royalty on their home turf by a Muslim is a pretty solid punch in the face.

      He even had Clinton’s endorsement. This was a very clear Fuck You to the Democratic party.

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        23 days ago

        For sure, but we’ve seen hope like this go down the drain before. The circumstances here were favorable I think. RCV primary against an unlikable and disgraced opponent in NYC is hardly a death knell for the national corpo Dems

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          23 days ago

          Agreed as well, and I don’t wanna jump for joy yet but we gotta take our victories as they come. Hopefully this is a snowball that causes an avalanche of change.

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          The realistic hope I think is that Cuomo had support from extremely wealthy backers. New York Real Estate and Wall Street, Bloomberg, all backed Cuomo.

          The people said no. The money didn’t swing it for Cuomo. The name recognition and the money didn’t swing it for Cuomo. The dynasties didn’t swing it for Cuomo.

          Mamdani came in and offered real improvements to people’s lives and they gave him their votes.

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      Dems are cooked. Nobody is buying the old guard bullshit anymore. Embrace populism or go the way of the Whigs

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        Maybe, probably. They are going to gamble that they can stay the same because people are/will be so mad about… well everything.

        They can prop up a white male moderate with an ounce of charisma, someone that is around 45. People will be refreshed that this candidate speaks in complete sentences and the capacity for empathy – like a real person.

        That’s what they want, business as usual sold as a revolutionary idea. Will people buy it? Who knows… groups of people are pretty dumb.

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      AOC is going to need allies and a progressive coalition. We need to change the composition of the party from within in exactly this way. We just need way more of it.

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      RCV undermines the necessity for a partisan vote. That’s why Cuomo - the party establishment pick - lost by 8 points to a local outsider with better politics and a cleaner reputation.

      But I agree, at some point, you do need to support someone. And if that someone is part of a large political organization (aka a party) they can bring a lot of financial and labor resources to bare when organizing and implementing political reforms. In the case of New York City, which is functionally a one party municipality (Dems regularly swamp the GOP 2:1), Zohran’s entrance to the statewide political scene is a huge break from the traditional partisan politics that gave us Eric Adams and threatened to give us four more years of a corrupt, real estate entwined sex pest.

      The fact that he’s got a large, active, well-financed DSA behind him - in a way that transformed a coronation into a competitive primary - is a huge point in his favor.

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    Lets see if you get a President Mamdani in a decade or two. It would be a change for the better.

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        That is a downside, indeed.

        Nonetheless, I seriously hope he has the impact on American politics he deserves. Maybe he is the GOP-killer the US so desperately needs.

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    Yo if telling yourselves that headline is what it takes to get you dudes out there to vote for the DNC so they can get to ending Citizens United, creating fair elections maps, taxing the rich, and expanding medical coverage: power to you. Let’s go!