The full tweet:
Majority of gamers are still playing at 1080p and have no use for more than 8GB of memory. Most played games WW are mostly esports games. We wouldn’t build it if there wasn’t a market for it. If 8GB isn’t right for you then there’s 16GB. Same GPU, no compromise, just memory options.
I don’t think he’s that far off; eSports games don’t have the same requirements as AAA single-player games.
This is a much more nuanced take than the headlines implies.
Are you saying journalists will publish articles with inflammatory headlines to maximize engagement with their ad-based website funding? Nah way, I don believe it.
Just as an FYI editors usually pick the headlines.
Counter point.
https://prosettings.net/blog/1440p-competitive-gaming/
Increased resolution has been the trend for a bit now even in these competitive games.
ETA, let’s also not pretend that those who play esports games only play esports games too.
Tell that to game developers. Specifically the ones that routinely don’t optimize shit.
Or to gamers who insist on playing these unoptimized games at max settings. $80 for the game, and then spend $1000 buying a gpu that can run the game.
Then put 8GB in a 9060 non-XT and sell it for $200. You’re just wasting dies that could’ve been used to make more 16GB cards available (or at least a 12 GB version instead of 8).
That wouldn’t work. AMD uses a lot of low memory cheap cheap memory in unison to achieve high speeds, that’s why their cards have more vram than nvidia, not because the amount matters, but because more memory chips together can get higher speeds.
Nvidia uses really expensive chips that are high speed so they can fewer memory chips to get the same memory speed.
Then AMD lied and manipulated gamers for advertising that you need 16gb vram.
Memory speed > memory amount
Why would speed matter more then amount. If I have to swap from the slower system memory it’s going to slow it down. Having more means I can store more needed stuff in fast ram.
That’s not how it works at all. You still need to use system memory.
And honestly, I really don’t have time to explain all the details on how RAM and VRAM works.
You are definitely AMDs target audience.
You’re wrong bro. I
can’ter, don’t have time to explain but you’re just wrong. *Finishes with passive aggressive insult*You’re fresh from reddit, ay? Ever consider going back?
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Wow. Moi, a dumb cunt? You suuuure got me! I hope you didn’t hurt yourself coming up with such an epic zinger. True big brain material there, really shows us all how much mental horsepower you’ve got under the hood.
Fucking toxic manchild Redditors. Looking forward to seeing your account inactive after a few weeks of us mocking you.
Lmao. AMD out here fumbling a lay up.
Seriously.
All AMD had to do here is create a 12GB and 16GB version (instead of 8 and 16), then gesture at all the reviews calling the RTX 5060 8GB DOA because of the very limiting VRAM quantity.
8GB VRAM is not enough for most people. Even 1080p gaming is pushing the limits of an 8GB card. And this is all made worse when you consider people will have these cards for years to come.
Exactly. Even if you accept their argument that 8GB is usually enough today for 1080P (and we all know that is only true for high performance e-sports focused titles), it is not true for tomorrow. That makes buying one of those cards today a really poor investment.
I mean honestly, yeah. With a simple 4 GB chip they could have won the low end and not screwed over gamers.
They’ve really seemed to have forgotten their roots with the GPU market, which is a damn shame.
Do you just not want more money?
Nvidia have dropped the ball epically and you have a golden opportunity to regain some GPU share here.
I just ditched my 8gb card because it wasn’t doing the trick well enough at 1080p and especially not at 1440p.
So if i get this straight AMD agrees that they need to optimize games better.
I hate upscaling and frame gen with a passion, it never feels right and often looks messy too.
First descendant became a 480p mess when there were a bunch of enemies even tho i have a 24gb card and pretty decent pc to accompany that.
I’m now back to heavily modded Skyrim and damn do i love the lack of upscaling and frame gen. The Oblivion stutters were a nightmare and made me ditch the game within 10 hours.
FSR4 appears to solve a lot of problems with both upscaling and frame gen – not just in FSR, but generally. It appears they’ve fixed disocclusion trails, which is a problem even DLSS suffers from.
My 4k tv disagrees. Even upscaling from 1440p, my 10GB is barely enough on new games
4K is a tiny part of the market. Even 1440p is a small segment (albeit rapidly growing).
Last month’s Steam survey had 1080p as the most common primary display resolution at about 55%, while 4k was at 4.57%.
I disagree.
why
that’s just like, they’re opinion
Tell that to my triple 1440p screen flight simulator!
Have you tried buying three graphics cards?
Ive got 16gb of vram 2k monitor and this tracks pretty accurately. I almost never use over 8gb. The only games that I can break 10gb are games where I can enable a setting (designed for old PCs) where I can load all the textures into vram.
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Ksp uses ram, not vram. I play rp1 with 8gb vram no problem. 32 gb of ram isn’t enough though.
Yep, confused it.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game use more RAM than ksp with mods though, holy moly.
My Rimworld at 500+ mods can be pretty fucked
I wish.
Send one of these guys by my place. I’ll show them what 8GB can not do…
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Oh so it’s not that many players are FORCED to play at 1080p because AMDs and Novideos “affordable” garbage can’t cope with anything more to make a game seem smooth, or better yet the game detected we’re running on a calculator here so it took pity on us and set the graphics bar low.
I would agree because 8gb is entry for desktop gaming and most people start at entry level
