I wish American Voters had memories longer than 4 years. But they don’t.
They got pissed at Bush and the Republicans in 2006 for the war and in 2008 for crashing the economy.
And 2 years later in 2010 they voted in a red wave not seen since reconstruction.
Donald Trump tried to overthrow the government and 4 years later they gave him another chance. If Trump shot a crowd of people on 5th avenue the kids of the victims would vote for him 4 years later.
There were massive voter suppression campaigns in both those election cycles. And it doesn’t help that the neo Liberals highjacked the democratic party, marginalizing labor. People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Democracy will not save us. People that won’t vote unless they fall in love can fall out of love much more easily.
Do vote, it’s low effort and it can make a marginal difference. Just make your plans assuming you party will lose and if they win they will disappoint.
Your treating this as if the same people are voting different ways. It’s usually much more along the lines of voters staying home one election and voting in another.
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The Republican party deserves to die for allowing Donald Trump to rise to power. The Democrat party deserves to die for being useless to stop them. America needs a whole new fresh start with new parties
We were within 2% of stopping them. If you bastards had got on board, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Na. It’s the Democrats politicians fault. Send more money to Israel.
See, they thought they could control him, like they did Reagan, and Bush Jr. Bush Sr. went along willingly.
But Trump is an overgrown 5 year old, and needs to feel he’s in charge. Like any typical narcissist.
or better yet, no parties at all and force some of our morons to actually learn their candidates beyond just party lines.
That will never happen.
Part of me wonder if this is worth saving. We need to start over.
All things end.
I just wish I wasn’t alive when it happened.
Where’s Thanos when we need him
A quick snap death would be preferable to what’s coming.
But bruh if u vote for third party, it’s a win for Donald Trump bruh.
It needs a new electoral system too.
Yep the one that farmers does not select president for whole United States and 6th largest economy of world aka California.
I think they bumped up to 5th recently
It literally was.
It’s a nice catch 22 innit
Or, better idea, no parties like the founders intended
I’ve stopped believing there is anything that will make people stop voting Republican
Lack of elections could….
Notice that’s their top concern. Not hurting Americans, not pissing off allies, not a recession, not handing off the title of World Superpower to China, but losing their jobs is their top concern.
*losing power over others not just theor jobs
not handing off the title of World Superpower to China
They put in the hours. Maybe they’ve fucking earned it. But if it makes you feel any better, most of the BRICS are rocketing upwards and positioned to match or eclipse the US by the end of the century. That’s just what happens when you implement modern industrial policies under a more egalitarian social system. Spreading the wealth engages more of the population in high value productive activities that benefit the national economy in the long run.
After you’ve built a broadly productive economic engine, the only thing holding you back is the size of your productive population. At that point, policies like universal health care and efficient mass transit really start paying dividends.
It’s not like they needed us to fumble in order to take the trophy, but all the same we didn’t need to just hand them the ball and walk away.
Don’t threaten me with a good time!!!
Also, it’s a wheel. The Cons ruin the economy, voters get mad and vote Democrat, Democrat fixes economy, voters don’t like the spending even though it’s improving everything so vote Con, the Cons ruin the economy, ect ect so on and so forth
The Democrats get penalized for not fixing it fast enough or good enough.
This could be a super duper long play hustle. Where after 4 years they just lay down and then in 12 years they slip back in and really fuck shit up after the left can’t fix anything they have done.
By then AI will be in control, everyone will have elons chip in their brain and president baron will be choking kittens on the Whitehouse lawn to a stadium crowd while hologram kid rock plays the classics.
Look out for project 2037 mark my words
That’s the same everywhere, not just the US.
The right destroys what the left/center build so the left/center rebuild it and then the right destroys it again.
This is so true it hurts to read it.
Yeah, I find it kinda funny that the “great again” era that is constantly referenced is actually this era of loosing the House and the Senate that is specifically being refrenced now. Mate, you can’t have it both ways; do you want the house and the Senate and the House or do you want it to be “great again?”
Sure is telling that his biggest worry is republicans losing power and not the sort of fucking depression that was the cause last time.
Wouldn’t that be nice.
Nicer would be the utter destruction of the Republican Party, followed by a split between the Corporate Democrats and Progressives into two parties.
We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years.
I sure fucking hope so, you piece of shit.
Hopefully the republicans can go the way of the whigs, the democratic party can become the conservative party they so desperately want to be, and we can create an actual party on the left.
I’ve wanted this for ages. And it’s represented so well in Republicans having only one platform: “Oppose Democrats. If it makes a Democrat angry, do it.”
Cleanse - and I mean CLEANSE - the opposition party. No one here can claim the Democrats never have good ideas. And yet, we can definitely do better than them. A better party means having better ideas - not just “Stop them libruls”. Bernie just toured the States with a message of exactly what that would look like.
Fingers crossed
Not happening. There won’t be another legit election.
Considering the rampant gerrymandering, the fucked system that’s the electoral college, this past election having widespread voter intimidation, destruction of mail-in ballot collection boxes…was the last one a legit election? How long has it been since there was one?
Yesterday we voted and kept wi supreme Court leaning Dem despite being outspent 10:1 for the second time in 4 years. You need to keep voting and spread the word. I convinced a co worker to vote that also thought it was useless. Every vote matters
✊ fuck yeah! Keep it going!
Dont forget the swing state statistical anomalies. No, the last one wants fair and none going forward will be either.
was the last one a legit election?
No. And there may also have been hacking of voting machines.
I’m gonna go with never.
Of course there will be more legit elections.
What’s really happened is we’ve had our global dominance thrown away. We took the lead because of WW1 and WW2. It’s not because we’re great. It’s not because we manifested our destiny to become the leader of the world. It’s because factories in Europe were bombed to smithereens. That’s what allowed the U.S to achieve financial dominance. Now we’re in the fall.
And the U.S. got all the money to build up their industrial base by the fact that they were they only country able to give out loans to the European nations fighting in the First World War since every european country spent everything they had and then some fighting each other.
World War One represented the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. It was bigger than the economic exploitation by the British Empire of Africa, India and Asia combined. In four years, the U.S. basically held all the cards and (I know this is controversial) only ended up getting involved militarily when it seemed possible that the allies would lose and therefore be unable to pay off their loans.
And you know what…all credit to the Americans; they took that new found wealth and built up the strongest, most powerful industrial base the world had ever seen; an industrial base that, without which, the second world war would have been nearly impossible to win (Russian blood, British Strategy, American Industry…isn’t that the saying?)
It’s what they proceeded to do with that industrial base afterwards that lead us to where we are now.
Of course that’s all he cares about. Fuck him, I hope he loses everything he holds dear.
What does he expect. Libertarianism is basically enacting the policies that led to the great depression. Trump is reacting in the way that made it worse, but you are the kerosene to his spark. Expect great depression when you get what you want.
I hope he is right. We could do a lot of good if we kept them out of office.
GOP should be banned from American politics. They have repeatedly violated the constitution at this point and are clearly compromised.
Completely agreed, but I’m pretty sure we’ll need new leadership for the Democratic party if we want them to make this happen
How about we burn 'em both down and elect people based on what they’ve already done rather than what they’re going to do?
No, that’s too reasonable - I must be crazy.
I’m not opposed to the idea if people can make it happen, but I think a mutiny will be easier than building a whole new boat
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Look if you don’t want to vote for bears you should have chosen to be born someplace smarter
Their plan is to not have fair elections anymore.
Elections are over. The US is cooked.
The current regime will enact Russia-style “elections”.
Without violent revolution, the US is over.
But you’ll do nothing to stop him.
