American Militia Members. Where the hell are you? THIS is what you exist for and you are doing NOTHING!
Edit: I’ve only heard “defense against tyranny” as justification for these militias by these militia
Waiting for their orders to start killing brown folks.
Successful millitant Leftist organizers like the Black Panther Party are stamped out by the State, leaving only far-right millitias in any real number.
I’m convinced that this is it. There’s a dual track effort to defang leftists through first heavily propagandizing the success of “pure” non-violent movements by removing them from their context, then by aggressively stamping out the groups that move past that. The first part is why you see so many people saying “well, why don’t we just march again and wave more signs?” The state has done a very, very, very good job of convincing people that peaceful assembly without the threat of unpeaceful assembly behind it means a goddamn thing.
Spot-on! Just look at the historical revisionism surrounding the roles of Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, the US mythologizes the Civil Rights Movement and erases the more millitant actions that forced their hand. See the shunning of Nelson Mandela for appreciating the aid Fidel Castro and Cuba at large had sent, followed by the revision of Mandela himself in popular western view. It’s through these distortions and bluntings of real, working class victories fought and paid in blood in ways that prevent the modern working class from following in their predecessor’s footprints.
They’re all white supremacists, man. This isn’t a tyranny to them, it’s exactly what they want, they want anyone who isn’t white ‘self deporting’ in the face of cruel mistreatment, and the military and the rest of the government is deleting any mention of any historical person that isn’t a white cis het male. They have never been happier.
This exactly.
They don’t see imposing a state of fundamentalist Christian supremacy as tyranny, because their ideology is one of Christian Nationalism (which in the US is inherently white nationalism).
They see the erosion of their relevance as the tyranny they’re supposed to stand up to despite it mostly being driven by cultural changes instead of government mandates. This means that the militias are meant to commit violence against civilians; they know the cops will side with them in a scrum. They’re more afraid of a lesbian with blue hair than a rogue sherrif depriving them of rights.
it’s not government tyranny unless a democrat is president. duh,
They also didn’t do anything when the democrats were presidents.
And they were at least fascist lite.
Now look at them crying bcs they lost their precious uniparty democracy once it started bullying them and not just the rest of the world for once.Lol?
I haven’t seen any government of the United States being toppled over by militia so it obviously meant they did not do it.
TIL: anything = successfully toppling the largest govt on the planet and anytime less than that means nothing at all
Very hot take
There was supposed to be a well regulated militia.
The militia we have are gravy seals and Y’all Qaeda who want to dismantle regulation and rights.
If you expect your enemies to die fighting for your beliefs while you sip a latte and post memes then you’re unfathomably fucking stupid. Right wingers care about stopping communism. Guess whose job it is to stop fascism?
Everybody else? Its not the communists, its literally every shade of political direction
I think you misunderstood the point.
Everytime I’ve seen someone an American militia discussing its purpose, defending against a tyrannical government is overwhelmingly given as the reason, from what I’ve seen when they are being interviewed.
It appears to me, who is not an american, that there is no other possible explanation for what’s happening in that country right now. Like it’s not even a debatable fact from what I’m seeing. The Dems bend over backwards and support this regime seemingly everytime they have the chance to opposite it, CR resolution as but one recent example.
So if both parties are in cahoots, and these militia are by their own words the check to this exact situation, why are they not acting? They didn’t have to start with guns blazing, but I’m not seeing it hearing them in any way doing the thing they say they exist to do m
So as my post mentioned, I directed my question to those members for someone to respond. I haven’t seen any comments here that claim to be from militia members.
If you expect your enemies to die fighting for your beliefs while you sip a latte and post memes then you’re unfathomably fucking stupid
It’s not my flight as i don’t live there. I’m not at all claiming what you said and this is a disingenuous argument that tells me you didn’t understand my question.
Because they don’t believe the rules they impose on everyone else should apply to themselves. They are shameless hypocrites.
Why are foreigners who I don’t understand not behaving the way I expect them to?
The two parties being in cahoots is a minority opinion and in my view little better than a conspiracy theory. The Democrats tried to impeach Trump twice, filed felony charges against him four separate times, and put a bunch of his cronies in prison. They are limited in the actions they can realistically take against him not only by a longstanding commitment to the rule of law but also by the political reality that he has a lot of supporters and they need to choose their battles carefully. It’s frustrating to watch from the outside but I doubt any of us could do much better if we were in their shoes.
Militia members, being overwhelmingly right-wingers, care much more about some specific freedoms than they do about others, and those priorities are going to be different from yours. Also, as right-wingers, they naturally care much more about the freedom of themselves, their families, and their communities and allies than they do about the freedom of their enemies and people they don’t know and have little in common with. They also have different ideas about what sort of government overreach constitutes a threat to America than you do, and are naturally going to be more forgiving of it when it occurs as part of advancing their values and priorities or fighting against their enemies.
And finally, you knew damn well that you weren’t going to get any responses from right-wing militia members by posting on lemmy.ml, this was never intended as anything other than a circlejerk post and you’re not fooling anybody.
Get out of here with your sensical rational thoughts
Why are foreigners who I don’t understand not behaving the way I expect them to?
Maybe because ita batshit crazy and no one outside of america can seemingly figure out what the fuck is happening right now.
They picked a fight and are threatening the soveriegnty of CANADA! Their biggest and oldest bestie!.
Its bat shit crazy!
Yes, on that part at least we can agree, Trump is a fucking lunatic.
Most of the “militias” support this tyranny. They’re celebrating
While it is true that the majority of what people conceive of as American “militias” are reactionary, leftist community defense groups do exist. They have no where near the organizing capacity to march on DC but they can be seen protecting their local communities often under the umbrella label Antifa. Given the material conditions of the US, most of the focus is on providing marginalized groups with the skills and resources to protect themselves.
Thanks for the links
Nothing got gun control passed faster than the Black Panthers buying guns.
94% of Militia members in the US are foaming at the mouth reactionaries if not open fascists, with many being active or former law enforcement or related to military or intelligence.
“Not all tyranny is bad”
-maga dumbshits
Majority of militia folks are fascists
Government tyranny? Militias are (in the parlance of our times) here for it.
They’ll fight against Border Patrol, and even plot to kill them sometimes, but only when they think they aren’t doing enough.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48029360
https://time.com/6141322/border-vigilantes-militias-us-mexico-immigrants/
https://www.wired.com/story/border-militias-immigrants-trump/
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/07/border-el-paso-fbi-investigation/
Have been for a while. Probably for ever. True of probably any country.
Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses. For the most part, it’s fascists who form these militias, and quite a few of them are cops and military from 9–5. These people are not against “tyranny,” they’re for their own fascist brand of tyranny.
If the anti fascists of the US actually started arming themselves en masse, I think it would be a net positive effect.
Either you have more armed anti fascists able to fight back, or the fascists panic and begin banning guns, causing the fools who follow them to actually think twice about their beliefs.
Nothing gets far right followers more riled up than someone threatening to take their firearms.
This guy gets it
