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A dictator would never offer to step down.
Not good logic regardless of whether you think Zelensky is or is not a dictator. A dictator might if the terms he demanded for it were those that both parties of the conflict had already ruled out.
Making an impossible ask is hardly a sign of being reasonable or truly willing to do a thing. If I tell you I’ll give you ten million dollars but only if you can settle the mess in Palestine with the the “israeli” state and the Palestinian people permanently I’m not seriously offering you ten million dollars, my ask is impossible. No one would say it’s a good faith offer on my part.
Trump’s team has acknowledged NATO is not viable and doesn’t even want to commit US troops in the event of a ceasefire (something Russia refuses anyways), preferring it be a Europe problem and Russia categorically will not accept Ukraine in NATO. This is a FACT.
This conflict started over eastward NATO expansion, one of the primary, if not the most primary goals of Russia in their fight is to stop Ukraine from becoming part of NATO and stationing western weapons/troops there near them.
Russia is winning and the support of the US is waning. They are not going to accept having spent all that treasure and blood and taken all these sanctions and in the end not get their primary goal just to get Zelensky to step down for another person who hates Russia.
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I hope the people see it for what it is.
A loser petulantly asking for something he isn’t going to get, in exchange for something that’s going to happen any way.
He’s not getting peace, ever? Or what are you insinuating?
It’s obvious to anybody with even a minimally functional brain that Ukraine won’t join NATO and will be divided between US and Russia now.
I guess the EU means nothing to you now.
I’m gonna be shocked if the EU is around in a decade. The economic situation in Europe is dire, and nationalist parties are gaining ground all across Europe. The liberal parties might hold them back for an election or two using coalitions, but eventually they will get in power as the standard of living continues to collapse. And there will likely be all kinds of ladder pulling even before that happens.
Lol the EU isnt even invited to negotiations. The US doesnt need their lap dog, they can speak for themselves.
Which is exactly how much it means to everyone else as well
He’sShe’s implying that he will lose power anyway and is trying to use that as a bargaining chip by offering to step down. (I don’t agree, I’m just interpreting)*She’s implying
Oop, didn’t see that. I think the app I was using might not show me custom usernames? I’m not sure.
Edit: after going back to my phone, I realize boost for lemmy (the app) doesn’t show custom usernames like the website does, so no pronouns can be seen. RIP
Thank you for editing your comment.
He’s not getting NATO membership and he is already on his way out as soon as the US decides so, surely you see that?
Like Hitler won his war right?
I’m once again begging liberals to learn about any war other than WW2
Or learn about that war in the first place. They think Michael Bay’s Pearl Harbor was a documentary.
I assume you’re comparing Putin to Hitler? So, how would WWII have gone if the US stopped fighting Hitler?
Much better. The US wouldn’t have had time to reward every single Nazi they could find with a job.
The man can get his country into NATO, I’d say he has earned his retirement.
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Is NATO membership still a valid goal to pursue?
Obviously not since the agreement amongst existing members has to be unanimous.
“Valid” as in feasible? No. The war was started to keep Ukraine out of NATO, and Ukraine wasn’t fully backed by NATO in the war because it isn’t willing to go to war with Russia just for Ukraine.
I’m not an expert, but have read a decent amount on this. Others may have more and better info.
With that said, even if an Article 5 invocation won’t bring the US into your fight, it provides a hefty infrastructure of value to countries in it. From basing, to logistics, to intelligence, to aid, it is valuable. Now the politics of it are complicated and the US can hinder some of that value, but it still means that in Europe if Russia provides an Article 5 reason, other countries in NATO can choose to help in various forms. That’s not nothing. It’s also faster and less arduous then negotiating individual defense treaties with neighbors and others.
So yes, overall probably still worth it. Even if just as an entree into other alliances.
Until the Russian government gives up on imperial conquest of other nations, yes.
