It’s not that dubious. Either Americans find the bravery, strength, courage and determination we all once tought was basic yank DNA inherent in their grandfathers and great grandfathers, and overthrow the corpo billionaire mob in the White House, House & Senate and Supreme Court, or - and this is where it gets selfish
Wait another few years to be liberated by a bunch of weird talking, second guessing wusses from shithole countries to come and do the liberation for you.
That’s the only loop I’m seeing, so you’re welcome for the encouragement.
The time to go to Ed Sheeran concerts, watch the superbowl and make a black friday shopping list is over, you’re under siege and you’re not acting like it. (Tbf, that last part goes for Europe too)
E: Sorry pele, I didn’t see you were the OP, but we established this disagreement before
We (Americans) are well past the phase at which a French revolution style uprising would be at all effective. It would only give the powers in charge to excuse they need to crack down hard and openly seize more power.
The only chance we have for any level of meaningful change is for our supposed “allies” to develop a fucking conscience and commit to providing humanitarian and military support to those of us who oppose this shit.
However, that will never happen. The European powers can’t even commit to defending one of their neighbors when they’re being actively invaded by a clearly hostile foreign nation. They’re not even willing to defend themselves when that same hostile nation regularly violates their airspace and bombs their airports.
If you’re not willing to defend Ukraine why should we expect that you will help us?
This isn’t a French revolution scenario this is a nazi-occupied France scenario. Except there are no allies, there will be no D-Day, there will be no liberation.
I did say in a couple of years. And you underestimate the impossible capacity of joint human willpower when we are put with our backs against the wall.
Many in Europe in the early 40’s would have echoed your sentiment if not said it word for word. It was because of contrarian optimists the dam eventually broke, not to mention the natural cycle of totalitarianism, when the total lunatic in charge eventually overcommits their armed forces.
Do not confuse the lack of allegiance to your Orange Pedophile with a lack of care about your people.
You may be right that the time for a revolution is past you, but you’re not right to give up. When the time comes, many new alliances will form and come to your aid as you once did for us.
Hello, I’m one of these people.
It’s not that dubious. Either Americans find the bravery, strength, courage and determination we all once tought was basic yank DNA inherent in their grandfathers and great grandfathers, and overthrow the corpo billionaire mob in the White House, House & Senate and Supreme Court, or - and this is where it gets selfish
Wait another few years to be liberated by a bunch of weird talking, second guessing wusses from shithole countries to come and do the liberation for you.
That’s the only loop I’m seeing, so you’re welcome for the encouragement.
The time to go to Ed Sheeran concerts, watch the superbowl and make a black friday shopping list is over, you’re under siege and you’re not acting like it. (Tbf, that last part goes for Europe too)
E: Sorry pele, I didn’t see you were the OP, but we established this disagreement before
We (Americans) are well past the phase at which a French revolution style uprising would be at all effective. It would only give the powers in charge to excuse they need to crack down hard and openly seize more power.
The only chance we have for any level of meaningful change is for our supposed “allies” to develop a fucking conscience and commit to providing humanitarian and military support to those of us who oppose this shit.
However, that will never happen. The European powers can’t even commit to defending one of their neighbors when they’re being actively invaded by a clearly hostile foreign nation. They’re not even willing to defend themselves when that same hostile nation regularly violates their airspace and bombs their airports.
If you’re not willing to defend Ukraine why should we expect that you will help us?
This isn’t a French revolution scenario this is a nazi-occupied France scenario. Except there are no allies, there will be no D-Day, there will be no liberation.
I’m sorry you’re feeling so down about it.
I did say in a couple of years. And you underestimate the impossible capacity of joint human willpower when we are put with our backs against the wall.
Many in Europe in the early 40’s would have echoed your sentiment if not said it word for word. It was because of contrarian optimists the dam eventually broke, not to mention the natural cycle of totalitarianism, when the total lunatic in charge eventually overcommits their armed forces.
Do not confuse the lack of allegiance to your Orange Pedophile with a lack of care about your people. You may be right that the time for a revolution is past you, but you’re not right to give up. When the time comes, many new alliances will form and come to your aid as you once did for us.