• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    Sigh.

    This is all so very stupid and obviously harmful, just like everything conservatives do to this country.

    I just wonder where we might have been if Gore had not had his election stolen from him by conservative demons. Somehow, I don’t think donnie would be in the WH.

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      We might actually be in a worse position, if Gore had won. I get the feeling that Trump started the carefully tended century old plan early. As in they almost had everything in place, and he didn’t wait the few more years they needed so we couldn’t do anything other than violence to oppose this crap.

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        A Gore win would have meant no Iraq, and possibly no Afganistan and 9/11.

        People forget how much Bush was tied to the Saudis, particularly the Bin Ladin family. They were buisiness partners in defense contracting and made a killing in the weeks after 9/11.

        Also, Bush flat out ignored multiple warnings about members of Al Qaeda being in the US, including an august 2001 warning about them planning an attack.

        Gore on the other hand, was a proponent of climate action.

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          Yes. It would have been better in the short term. We have no idea where project 2025 would be if those things had happened. I suspect Trump doesn’t get elected, and they manage to keep a lid on their plan until 2030 when they were actually ready, and held all the courts.

          I haven’t forgotten about GWB. I protested that shit in my 20’s. Hell I’m using a sign that was made back then to protest the Iran war today. I don’t think it would have been worse back then, I think we would have gotten complacent, the way we did when Obama was elected, and the establishment Dems would have done fuck all to stop the plan that the conservatives have been working on since their failed Business Plot. I think we got somewhat lucky that an idiot got placed in charge a bit too early.

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            First, Gore would have not appointed John Roberts to the court, John Roberts was a Bush Lawyer.

            That right there would have sunk the initial parts of the Republican strategy massively. Because the plan depended on control of the courts, control that Bush maintained after the conservatives stole the election for him.

            A Gore win in 2000 would have meant a liberal leaning supreme court, and that would mean that the voting rights act would still exist.