What the poll results do say is that Christianity in the U.S. is suffering because it doesn’t speak to the lives of most younger Americans. Mainstream Protestant denominations are shrinking as evangelicalism takes over. Right-wing Christians have effectively told the nation that theirs is the only kind of Christianity, and that is not a selling point for would-be followers.

“Christianity has a really bad PR problem,” Liz Bucar, a religion professor at Northeastern University, told Northeastern Global News last year. “There’s a range of ways to be Christian. There are queer-friendly Christian congregations. But that’s not what people associate with Christianity. They associate the loudest voices (with it). The loudest voices don’t speak for the majority … but the loud voices do come down on one side of a lot of social issues or moral issues, and they don’t speak on behalf of the huge diversity of Christianity in the U.S.”

The upshot is that many churches aren’t reflecting the lives of Gen Z very well, with two exceptions. The ones that get a lot of attention are white evangelicals. Many remain attached to the churches in which they were raised. But many have left those churches because of their rigidity and conservative moral standards, including condemnation of LGBTQ+ people.

The other exception is among African-Americans. The media consistently ignores just how religious the Black community, which is fundamental to the Democratic Party, is and what that means for politics. About three-quarters identify as Christian, compared to 62 percent for all Americans. But even among African-Americans, religious affiliation has been declining, and Gen Z Black people are no exception.

The media, in its effort to pursue the counterfactual, keep coming up with stories about a religious revival among young Americans. Stories filled with anecdotes about packed pews have become common, particularly in light of a Gallup poll finding an uptick in religiosity among Gen Z men. After years of steady decline, the share of young men who said religion was important to them jumped from 28 percent to 42 percent. According to that survey, Gen Z men find religion more important than Gen Z women.

However, the bulk of the increase was confined to Republican men. Political scientist Ryan Burge of Washington University in St. Louis, who has his doubts about the validity of the poll results, says that young men like the patriarchal undertones of the churches.

“It’s the only place where you don’t have to apologize for being a white man,” Burge told the AP. “American religion is very white male dominated, and young men are drawn to institutions that elevate them and give them influence and power.”

In other words, they liked the churches’ politics.

So, and correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t churches basically serving as the Pharisees’ MAGATs’ safe spaces? I thought they hated the idea of “safe” spaces.

Not that trump supporters like Kat Kurr haven’t compound the running away from the church.

Didn’t she “deflect” a hurricane away from Florida with a stick and a prayer once only for it to hit Florida anyway?

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    The other exception is among African-Americans. The media consistently ignores just how religious the Black community, which is fundamental to the Democratic Party, is and what that means for politics. About three-quarters identify as Christian, compared to 62 percent for all Americans.

    It’s somewhat galling that a religion that was forced on their ancestors remains more popular than average amongst Black Americans, but on the other hand in my experience Black churches tend to be more old-school and focus on helping the community, loving thy neighbor, etc. as opposed to the white supremecist hatemongers most others have become, so it makes sense.

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    Or perhaps genz have more information resources at their disposal and are figuring out that religion is just archaic mass behavior control

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      If kids see their parents and people in their church being decent people, they’re more likely to want to stay in it. That’s not what they’re seeing.

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    I’ll stick with the original Lenny Bruce observation, “People are leaving the church in droves to find God”.

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    Historically, the church was a place to connect with the local community. They were a proper third space. That seems to have changed a lot over the last 20 years. Now, it seems that the only people that still attend regularly are the “true believers” with their shitty politics and opinions.

    There is probably a fascinating sociology paper somewhere about the knock on effects of the Internet becoming mainstream as it relates to church attendance.

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      Why did we reduce our 3rd places to loud rowdy bars or religious institutions? We couldn’t get a slightly louder version of a library to hang out in, with some electronics to connect to?

      Really makes me miss my university library. It had 5 floors and the first 2 floors werre more social collaborative ones. Even had a Cafe. People who wanted to deeply focus go to the 4th/5th floor where it’s dead quiet.

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        My library is spectacular. They have meeting spaces for all sorts of things: events and mini fairs, supporting a huge variety of clubs- from - hackspace for 3d printing and similar to quilting and knitting to…

        Well let’s just put it this way, one of the events was a Mongolian circus performance.

        They also have the quiet spaces for study and books

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      Honestly, the more liberal you go as a Christian, the more you have to struggle with cognitive dissonance.

      I doubt very much that a historical Jesus would have been cool with lgbtq, women that weren’t property, and being told that slavery is uncool.

      First off, despite what a lot of people claim, Jesus was a fundamentalist of sorts pushing to return to the strict laws of Moses. He wasn’t progressive, and that includes laws like stoning women for not crying out as they’re raped. But also, if the girl weren’t betrothed she’d be forced to marry her rapist and had no chance to leave them. All the rapist would be punished with is paying for the goods- “you break it you buy it” mentality.

      Second off, he was running around the ass end of the boondocks faking miracles and grifting the ever living shit out id them. He’s as big a con artist as Trump.

      All this to say, when you have to start trimming the book of all the awful shit, you eventually start to look at the Swiss cheese of paper and go “why should I?” (And we can add the early church fathers for the Catholics)

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        He wasn’t progressive, and that includes laws like stoning women for not crying out as they’re raped.

        Uh, one of the most famous stories in the New Testament is Jesus intervening when a woman was about to be stoned for adultery.

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      It also tracks with the slow death of pub culture in small town Britain. A decade ago or so, the church was hosting local events at the pubs to try and keep them both alive.