• Hux@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    “Trump announces vast conspiracy to commit and cover up election fraud”

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    1 day ago

    So Trump wants us to believe that elections were fine when he won in 2016, but then got compromised under him for the 2020 election, but then Biden cleaned it up I guess so that he could fairly win the 2024 election?

    Uh huh.

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      22 hours ago

      It has never been truer than with this group of people.

      As a rule I bet it has a 100% hit rate. To the extent that it seems like they havent done every single thing they’ve accused the other side of, it’s only be they either don’t have the ability yet or it hasn’t been discovered yet.

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    70-80% of what he said were things we already knew about, tried to fix, and got blocked by republican stone walling in previous administrations. None of what was true dealt with actual vote tampering but interfering with people’s opinions and who they voted for.

    If he really declassified serious documents, then he knows that. Especially because independent studies from peer-reviewed third parties dropped those reports pretty consistently. It’s just been a decade of non-stop bullshit so it’s hard to remember, but he didn’t say anything we didn’t already know, and actual voting was never the problem.

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      Here’s the thing, He didn’t say anything that we didn’t already KNOW. He stepped out there and used the big fancy word ‘declassified’, but EVERYTHING, he said that was even half true we knew about.

      And half of that stuff that he’s trying to scream about the democrats tried to fix with election protections during Biden’s run and before. The Republicans blocked the bill (of course).

      He conflated multiple issues that we have been discussing around elections for decades, but none of the actual votes were the issue.

      The China hack? It happened. It was demographic data. We knew that.

      Are our voting machines easy to manipulate? We knew that, but not via wifi hacking typically and not at the national scale. The risk was firmware iirc not remote hacks.

      Then, he mentions foreign elections, which had nothing to do with us.

      The time it takes to count all votes? We knew that. Mail in ballots take time to count, and elections are usually called well before final counts.

      I noticed Russia was constantly absent from his list of meddlers. But bots were rampant during elections, especially about Biden and Hillary.

      He basically took everything that independent studies have said over the last 20 years and conflated it directly with voting machines.

      The outright lies were obvious. Dead people voting, etc. But a lot of it was twisted just enough. It was, as usual, outrageous.

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      I think he really was planning to go in with the crazy grandpa shit, but the party got wind of it, and they got worried because his off-the-cuff remarks have been especially bat shit for a while now. They convinced whichever of the one or two members of the inner circle who have his ear this week that they should talk him out of it. He still had to say something, so he said whatever this was.

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    24 hours ago

    Up next is probably trump getting mad we’re ignoring his unfounded conspiracy rants and using abusing the cell phone Presidential Alert system that we’re not allowed to opt-out to shove it in our faces against our will.