• slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Not positive that you should be enforcing your own personal ethics onto other people. Free speech should be a thing. If a person did bad things and people are glad that he is no longer in a position to do bad things, that is a celebration in itself. Trying to enforce opinions like this is self-congratulatory in that you consider your opinion is superior and worthy of judicial enforcement.

    Note that I haven’t in the slightest commented on the man himself, yet still run the risk of banning. It all depends upon the moderator. This happens on Reddit all the time and that’s the problem with this kind of moderation. It has a chilling effect. Give a censor a job and they tend to censor.

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      Freedom of speech is what the government controls. You have no freedom of speech within a private entity like social media.

      The TOS sets the overall rules, each community further defines them.

      The Lemmy instances which are “do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” get de-federated pretty damn quickly due to the raw sewage they pump out.

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        20 days ago

        I do agree that censorship and freedom of speech are related to how a government deals with the matter, so you are right.

        However, free speech principles have, thankfully, escaped the confines of government control. People generally like to express an opinion and hear others - particularly on private platforms that are supposedly set up for that express purpose. Sure, set of terms of service putting arbitrary guard rails on ethical grounds (one’s own) and see what that gets you in the long run.

        Most of us already know the extremities of free speech. Saying ‘great’ when a douchebag stops being a douchebag is hardly ban worthy.

        Or maybe it is, and if so, welcome to your weather channel.

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        19 days ago

        Freedom of speech is what the government controls. You have no freedom of speech within a private entity like social media.

        Totally true. But the reality is people are going to go to whatever platform they feel most free to express themselves on.

        That’s literally why everyone left Reddit for Lemmy. And they’ll leave Lemmy too.

        Just making an observation.

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          19 days ago

          The reason people left Reddit wasn’t a speech issue, it was that they ganked the API and killed all the 3rd party apps.