• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 hours ago

    I think Pumpkinhead was convinced this was going to be like kidnapping the head of state - Venezuela. In and out and do a victory lap or whatever.

    Donvict and his cabal don’t seem to be able to end this without basically surrendering. I don’t think they want their idiotic base to know they cut and run.

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        4 hours ago

        Bibi is part of the problem. Israel fundamentally does not want the war to end with anything short of total US occupation or annihilation of Iran. They want Iran deleted as an adversary and regional power. It’s not by accident that Israel keeps fucking up every ceasefire, and that’s exactly why Iran are so insistent on the US proving they can reign the Israelis in.

        Bibi will do everything in his power to tank peace efforts. His goals, and Trump’s, are diametrically opposed. Which means if Trump is getting out of this war before the midterms, he has to be the first president in US history to put Israel on a leash.

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          Israel fundamentally does not want the war to end with anything short of total US occupation

          But then they want the land and the oil.

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            Not really. Israel’s primary concern is removing Iran as a regional adversary. I’m not saying they would say no to stealing their oil industry, but it’s not really the primary motivator. They’d be perfectly happy with the US swooping in and controlling Iran’s oil industry as long as it left them free to basically act unobstructed in Lebanon and Palestine.

            Again, that comes back to the fact that Israel and the US have fundamentally different goals here, which is a huge issue for Trump.