I just want a cheap ass SATA SSD ffs. Data centers can keep their fucking NVMe, I just want SATA. Please
I got my 32gb DDR4 3600 for $60 2 years ago and four 2Tb NVME SSDs for $115 a pop last year.
The ram is now $335 and the NVMEs aren’t even in production anymore after they ran out of stock during the end of 2025 buyout. The closest equivalent is going from $400-$500 each these dsys.
The whole situation sucks, but realistically DDR4 is still fine. I’m using it on the 2 best PCs in my house. The other computers use older shit. I can run modern games at 100+ FPS on a big screen and even in VR.
Anything past 60 is just pissing contest stuff. 99% of games are totally playable at 60fps. 120+fps is great and everything, but if it’s going to cost you 2k to get there, I mean you run your own journey but I’d be fine almost all the time at 60fps.
60 FPS is good for a flat screen, but 100+ FPS is better and I enjoy the vibrant fluidity of the games at those high framerates. I think I spent less than 2k on my PC but it has been a journey of upgrades over years so I’m not sure
60 FPS is NOT good for VR though. 90 FPS is the bare minimum for smooth 3D immersion with any modern VR system.
60fps is like saying 640x480 resolution is enough and eyes can’t see more pixels, no need for HD.
There’s a paper somewhere where researchers tested this. Some people discern higher frame rates, but many could not as the brain has a refresh rate of its own that analyzes incoming vision stream. At some point the brain won’t notice a difference because its only getting X snapshots per second, not a true live stream.
I had plenty of fun playing Cyberpunk on my steam deck hooked up to a 1080p monitor running upscaled at around 30fps.
So did i playing duck hunt on NES
That’s a strange looking apple you’ve got there, friend.
Honestly, I’m pretty glad I comically overspec’d my 2020 build with a 5950X and 64gb ddr4. It’s been running like an absolute champ since I built it. I did shift from a 3080FE to a 9070 XT when I finally jumped ship from W10 to Bazzite, though. And there was a dead stick of ram that cropped up back in ‘23… I should probably go into my bios and tune the ram speeds down a bit to increase longevity, what with the price of memory these days.
I’m just glad I never throw shit away or sell anything. I have a bunch of ram that I wasn’t using and now I’ve got some builds to do with them.
Can someone that explain this to me? Why are companies choosing to make older parts available again instead of just making the new shit?
DDR4 slower therefore less demand from AI
The foundries still have the process in place for making DDR4, so since there’s demand they will keep making the product. It costs money to replace the machines in the facility to switch it to ddr5 or hbm, so the math only makes sense for a little while longer.
Because the factories are already set up to make DDR4. Retooling to make DDR5 will cost a lot of money and take a lot of downtime for which the factory isn’t making anything. So the companies are extending the life cycle of the DDR4 production lines, without needing to upgrade things or retrain workers. As long as people are buying it, then there’s money to be made by staying open.
It’s like being the burger restaurant next to the steak restaurant when the line for the steak restaurant is 3 hours long. You’ll get a lot of spillover from people who don’t want to wait, and you can benefit from that without necessarily turning into a steak restaurant yourself.
Wrong, memory companies have moved on to DDR5, they need to retool back yo to reproduce DDR4. The only problem is the semi fabs sold out of the ddr5 chips to AI companies for their builds.
Do you mean the actual packaging of silicon dies and putting them into DIMMs? Yeah, they had to revert back, but that’s because a lot of the memory silicon that’s only good for DDR4 never shut down, and any silicon memory that is good for DDR5 is also getting claimed up for non-DIMM memory (e.g., memory packaged with logic chips rather than sitting on its own package in a DIMM or even soldered to the board).
Basically, previous generations’ silicon fabrication tech is still going, and there are still buyers of that last generation product.
I have no plans from upgrading from AM4 and DDR4, even before the prices went crazy. I don’t need to, my CPU isn’t even being used 100% during gaming.
Honestly my 5800x3d/128gb/4070ti ddr4 setup still just absolutely rips. Undervolted some of the cores way back when and it runs cool and just hammers whatever I throw at it. I used to traditionally do 4 year refreshes, but this builds doing time. I’m not even going to look at it until 2029/2030 now. And at these prices, if they are still like this, I’m all for PC gaming and everything but I’ll be in my late 40s then. I just don’t game as much anymore and the console/PC gap is so big right now for price/performance differences that I might just not even.
