• pno2nr@lemmy.world
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    Ken Martin said it would be public then changed his mind. I think that’s why people are upset.

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      Ken Martin said it would be public

      Billionaire owned media definitely keeps saying it…

      The only sources I’ve ever seen, is Martin saying it will be released to “DNC members”…

      I’ve noticed a lot of people took that to mean “the public” but that’s only because they don’t understand what “DNC member” is…

      There’s only like 400 voting members, and I think the non-voting members are less than that?

      If you have a source of him saying he’d release it to the public, I’d love to see it. But honestly if I can’t find it, and none.of the many, many, people repeating that claim have been able to find it…

      I gotta say, not holding my breath

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        Stop spreading your bullshit about Ken Martin. I’ve personally seen people show you links that say he would publicly release this report and yet here you are saying you’ve never seen them. At this point the only logical conclusion is that you are intentionally spreading misinformation. Maybe you’ll remember this time:

        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938

        In brief remarks to the press after his election, Martin committed to publicly releasing a post-mortem of the 2024 campaign, which the DNC did not do after the 2016 election.

        That took me 60 seconds to find. Please say more about your thorough research into this topic.

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          The quote from the author of the article:

          In brief remarks to the press after his election, Martin committed to publicly releasing a post-mortem of the 2024 campaign, which the DNC did not do after the 2016 election. Martin did not say how quickly the committee would execute the review.

          That does claim he said publicly…

          But look at the quote to support it:

          "There has to be some lessons that we glean on that so we can operationalize it, not just here in DC, but through all of the 57 state parties,” Martin said. “We’ve got to look backwards and look forward at the same time.”

          What about that says “we’ll publicly release it”?

          Why do you think that was the closest quote a billionaire owned media corporation could find?

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              No…

              That was a journalist employed by a billionaire media corporation saying it…

              If he said it, don’t you think the quote of him saying it would be all over the place?

              Seriously, what’s your logic for why no one can provide an actual source of him saying it?

              Why isn’t billionaire owned media playing that clip 24/7?

              You don’t think it’s possible that billionaires are lying to you?

              Why do you blindly trust oligarchs so much? That’s a wild take on Lemmy…

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                Dude just give it a rest. You asked for a source and it was provided. It says explicitly what you’re saying no article in existence says so now you’re shifting the goalposts to something else. I’m done with your bullshit

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                  If you have a source of him saying he’d release it to the public, I’d love to see it. But honestly if I can’t find it, and none.of the many, many, people repeating that claim have been able to find it…

                  That’s what I asked for…

                  You haven’t provided it, I have moved zero goalposts, I think you’re just confused.

                  I’m willing to help now that you’re not using explicit insults tho.

                  Like, if I said I wanted proof that Larry Bird said humans evolved from giraffes, would you take someone word when they told you? Or would you want to hear exactly what Larry Bird said direct from the giraffes mouth?

                  This is larger than the current topic, if you don’t understand this, you’re gonna constantly be falling for propaganda.

                  If you don’t want any help, or think i can’t help you, all you have to do is not reply anymore.

                  But I can put up with some low grade verbal abuse if it helps defeat fascism, it’s better than the alternative

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      Near as I can tell from the sources I’ve seen for that he actually didn’t but some news sites misquoted him to make it seem like he did. The actual quote was that it would be “public to members [of the DNC]” not to the general public. This got shortened to “he said it would be public” in reporting leaving off the very important detail that that was meaning a very specific audience. Ultimately he never should have used the word public it’s way too easy to misconstrue. He would have been better off if he had said “it will be freely available to the DNC members”.