A study conducted in Germany found that men with higher IQs are less inclined to traditional values, but the lead author, psychologist and intelligence researcher Maximilian Krolo of Saarland University, said the researchers did not find these differences among women.
“My social media isn’t an echo chamber”
A fact so obvious and apparent only a German would even bother asking.
I think being knowledgeable leads someone to be more liberal than they otherwise would have been. Less inclined to fear the outgroup and fear change. This is why a college degree is so associated with liberalism. I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ, which itself is kind of wishy washy.
being knowledgeable
IQ has nothing to do with being knowledgeable. Shit headlines like this play into the exact same eugenics theory of humanity that gooners like RFK Jr and Peter Thiel have been pushing.
I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ
It’s quite literally just a measurement of one’s pattern recognition speed. Has nothing to do with your politics.
Case in point, Christopher Langan, who regularly outperformed on these cognition tests, was a total nerd on trivia, and ended up becoming a forest ranger because he had a perpetual chip on his shoulder. Once his reputation blew up as someone who could ace cognitive tests, he leveraged that into becoming a right-wing grifter.
The guy is a total piece of shit who tests well. Go out to any of the Ivy League universities and you’ll find this kind of person in spades. Silicon Valley, the DC Beltway, Wall Street, Raytheon Acres, the Florida Real Estate scene - very intelligent assholes are a dime a dozen. FFS, we built our rocket labs on Nazi scientists. No shortage of right-wingers in the “High IQ” space.
Yeah, being knowledgeable is quantifiable. IQ is wishy washy and easily misused
Here’s a link to the paper, so you don’t have to read an article about an article.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289625000893
Men with high net worth are more conservative leaning?! Isn’t that weird. Learning about the world builds compassion, while feeding your own greed breeds self interest. So weird. Remind me why we ask the opinions of rich people again?
So what determines it in women?
Religion and safety. They have to be surrounded by it and buying in is the only way the think they will stay on this side of the dirt.
It’s probably also more difficult to find a significant difference because women overall tend to be significantly better educated and more liberal from the outset.
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Plenty of dumb dumbs among us, don’t worry.
Don’t worry. Let a non dumb dumb explain.
There are many causality relationship kinds.
- Leftist -> big IQ: being leftist makes someone have big IQ
- Leftist <- big IQ: having big IQ makes someone a leftist.
- Leftist <-> big IQ: both 1 and 2. That is, saying “I am a leftist” and saying “I have big IQ” is the same, since one causes the other.
- Third parameter -> leftist AND third parameter -> big IQ: there is something that causes both being leftist and having big IQ.
In case 1, all leftists have big IQ. But NOT all big IQ ppl are leftist.
In case 2, all big IQ ppl are leftist. But NOT all leftists have big IQ.
In case 3, all big IQ ppl are leftist, and all leftists have big IQ.
In case 4, some NOT all leftist have big IQ. And NOT all big IQ ppl are leftist. But some are.
Assuming having big IQ is desirable, leftists would want either case 1 or 3. Since that would mean they have a big IQ.
However, the headline seems to suggest case 2. And in reality. And it could still be case 4.
Of course, in reality there is an uncountable number of parameters, not just 3, so don’t take the “all” in my comment as literally “all”. Reality probably resembles more case 4.
If this were a feel-good article for leftists, the headline would suggest case 1 or 3. Since that is what leftists want.
Even assuming the best case scenario of case 2 where all big IQ people are leftists. If you define big IQ as “top 10%” and low IQ as “not big IQ”: it is technically possible for 90% of leftists to be low IQ. And if low IQ is 50-50 leftist-conservative, 78% of leftists would be low IQ.
what about big PP tho?
Could be the third parameter that causes both leftism and big IQ.
Someone would need to do the study on that to be sure though.
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Eh. I don’t feel particularly good that I’m surrounded by conservative idiots.
Sure, but perhaps take solace that we’re less deliberately hateful and that stupidity isn’t celebrated as it is among the arch conservatives?
Yeah, well, I’ve never felt smarter than when conversing with a conservative.
click-bait
Um ackshually It’s ‘rage bait’, specifically for conservatives.
Click bait entices anyone to click through omitted information. Rage bait seeks a click through an emotional reaction from a specific demographic.
Clickbait:
“Local Restaurant Owner Tried One Menu Change and Sales Doubled Overnight”
“A Mom Working 3 Jobs Lost 60 lbs By Cutting This One Ingredient From Her Diet”
Ragebait:
“Study Finds Conservativel Men Have Smaller Penises Than Liberal Men.”
“New Data Shows Remote Workers May Be Less Valuable Than In-Office Staff”
Not all ragebait is clickbait. Ragebait is targeted. Know your enemy.
It’s also just reporting the findings of a study, which also tracks.
Breaking News: Conservatives tend to be dumber; more at 11!
Duh
I will count of the list of Conservative scientists:
End of list
Fuck IQ. Literally political stance is a better measurement of intelligence.
Wait…
This is because reality itself has a strong left-leaning bias, and intelligence makes you encounter that a lot more as you interact with reality.
Sure, there are highly intelligent right-wingers, but intelligence only gives you the cognitive tools to discover reality, it doesn’t force you to use them. Just because a person is intelligent doesn’t mean they can’t slide off into wharrderp fantasy land.
So IQ is still a valid measuring method is it?
The criteria for what counts as “valid measure method” is not “metrics that would make your ingroup look good”.
Why would it not?
For one reason, IQ tests rely heavily on logic puzzles. Studies have shown these can be improved on with practice, so the test isn’t necessarily measuring anything innate. It’s just testing whether one has familiarity with logic puzzles. Which, coincidentally is more likely to be the case if one happens to be white and especially if you’re wealthy.
so… ones ability to interpret, quickly react, apply knowledge, and intelligence is not the best? sound like a fairly good marker to me.
The point is that you get better at it with practice. IQ tests claim to measure objective “intelligence” as trait that is independent of education, advantage, or other factors. But if a large portion of the test involves exercises that can be improved with practice, IQ cannot be an objective measure.
so its good if you don’t practice then?
No, I’m sorry but none of that is uncontrollable
Sure, by using a different measure of intelligence than IQ.
I mean…
I took a Weschler and a college class on testing methods taught by the head of my university’s psych department…
How much do you know about quantying intelligence?
Did you read a blog post?
That’s saying we don’t force a single test on the entire planet’s population…
Which we wouldn’t do for anything.
It doesn’t make IQ tests worthless, and the only way someone could make that leap to think they are, is if they don’t know anything about testing
I’m going to ignore all the issues with this study, and just be happy there are people out there finding the data that shows conservatism is stupidity.
