The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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    Dems are the greatest ally the GOP could ask for. Lost to Trump at his weakest, literally doing a Nazi rally. Being spineless doesn’t get you wins. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar won re-election by comfortable margins and the rest of the party are fighting for their lives in these states. Some Red States still voted to protect abortion rights and just choose not to vote for Harris.

    Even if Jill Stein voters had picked Harris she still would have lost. There is no-one to blame but Harris and embracing people like Dick Cheney anrd The Blue No Matter who crowd themselves. You let Republicans unapologetically be themselves but your’re whole brand of politics makes any group who works with you expendable and centers a chance for that 1-2 GOP voters joining. I hope it was worth it.

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      Harris and embracing people like Dick Cheney

      I knew it was over at that point. Whoever suggested that was a good idea for Harris that late in the campaign definitely has a MAGA hat in their closet.

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        I knew it was bad at the debate, where Trump even called her out for adopting his polices like the border wall and stuff. But the Dick Cheney thing was crazy because not only was he rejected by Liberals in the past. But he is still one of the most hated War Criminals of all time. He isn’t going to sway over GOP people when you’re active in genocide. It just makes you look like the type of people he likes.

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          Seriously? People making the choice to have Trump because she had Cheney supporting her, that is some funny math…people need to stop demanding a perfect candidate and start thinkinh about who do you want to be your opponent for the next four years.

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            There are people who still believe Trump is anti-war for some reason or don’t play attention to the stuff he does once in office. It isn’t asking for perfection to not be cool with one of the most unpopular people in politics and the worst War Criminal when your tagline is “Joy.” Morals and Standards go a long way.

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    The billionaires, who already owned the whole thing, did not want it. We got what we got. This downfall started long before 2008.

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      You act like they’d have “lost” if Kamala won…

      They win either way, just different amounts.

      Meanwhile the average American always loses, just different amounts.

      It doesn’t have to be like this, we don’t need to run shitty conservative Dems that billionaires like, because then we won’t need to spend a billion on ads that don’t even change anyone’s minds.

      We ran a Dem candidate that wants a border wall, doesn’t want universal healthcare, and is pro-genocide…

      Because that’s what the billionaires wanted. And because we listed to donors over voters, we lost an election

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        C’mon. Like any politician, she had to try and be electable if she were to accomplish anything. How can it be that this is not obvious?

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          she had to try and be electable if she were to accomplish anything. How can it be that this is not obvious?

          And my point is that “electable” for a Dem candidate isn’t what she was doing.

          That would be matching her platform to what Dem voters wanted. Instead she based policy on “all voters” which includes the 40-50% who will never vote D under any circumstance. And in that process she lost votes from voters who will never vote R under any circumstances.

          If she was trying to be electable, it just shows how important it is we clear house at the DNC and run a fair primary in 2028.

          Because the same people have been running the show since 2016, and they’re 2-1 against fucking trump.

          They clearly aren’t up to the task

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            Another pretty fucking important thing to point out is that total voter turnout dropped by like 18 fucking million. The centrist bullshit just made a lot of people further to the left feel like it wasn’t even worth it to show up.

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        Got a serious question re genocide angle, how is trump well known for being anti-genocide?

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          He’s obviously not…

          But if the entire existence of American politics hasn’t been enough to show you that “lesser of two evils” is a losing strategy, I’m not sure how I’m gonna manage it.

          Taking the Dem party to the right doesn’t work, we just keep doing it because the DNC only cares about donations raised. They cater the party to billionaires and not voters.