• qaeta@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    Just to be clear. They believe all life is sacred. So they must preserve life at all costs. And their solution to this is to kill MORE people?

    Sure, makes complete sense eye roll

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    Honestly, if you gave them the option to either kill no one or kill a mother along with her baby, they’re going to choose option B every day and twice on Sunday.

  • ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    ‘God demands equal justice’

    Let me respond to that idiocy with a lyric from Nine Inch Nails: “Your god is dead and no one cares…”

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    The very first time I debated a christian about this, in 1992, I asked them what about back alley abortions, and he said he would charge all concerned, the conceivers and the abortionists, with murder.

    They’ve been telling us the whole time this was their ultimate intention.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Well, isn’t that weird. I guess all the gaslighting xtians were wrong? They were lecturing everyone on Tone And Civility both before and right after Trollito’s corrupted court overturned 50 years of law.

    Saying that talking about Gilead States was just being unreasonable and hysterical. That they didn’t want to kill women or doctors or anything…

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    16 hours ago

    Actually God only demands a monetary fine if you cause a miscarriage in someone who didn’t want one (Exodus 21), and requires that you drink a potion that will give you a miscarriage if you got pregnant by someone who isn’t your husband (Numbers 5). If only those Republicans could read their own Bible, they would be very upset.

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      I believe the new testament also makes it pretty clear that it’s not up to the followers to dole out God’s justice. Something something turn the other cheek and something something let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

      Also pretty fucking arrogant to claim to speak on behalf of a diety. And pretty fucking stupid to believe anyone claiming such.

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      That it is a monetary fine is really crucial as one of two ways of establishing that the Mosaic law that Christians leverage for their legalism does not consider an unborn fetus a person.

      First, as noted, the fine for a miscarriage is monetary only if no harm comes to the woman. If the woman is hurt, the Mosaic concept of reciprocal justice (eye for eye, etc), which was likely borrowed from the code of Hammurabi, kicks in. The death of an unborn fetus has no reciprocal punishment because that form of justice applies to people.

      The second way of establishing that an unborn fetus is not considered a person in the hebrew bible is right in the second version of the creation story in Genesis 2:7

      then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being (emphasis mine)

      So here first, and in various other places in the bible (and in the broader Greco-Roman culture in which the nascent Christianity would later form), life began at first breath.

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    18 hours ago

    How much murder is it to bomb school kids in another country? We should seek the death penalty at the highest decision making levels for that.

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    18 hours ago

    “Pro-life” has never been about protecting life. It was always a means to control women.

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      Exactly, just like the freedom of religion has always been a way to prevent children from learning things!