According to the mediator, the Trump team had managed to secure unprecedented concessions in what would have been the best deal any administration would have gotten from Iran, ever. Hours later, the missiles started to land.
According to Trump, Israel said they were going to attack Iran, with or without US help. This would have dragged the US in anyway. In other words, according to the mediator and Trump, Iran and the US were too close to an amazing deal for lasting peace, so Israel took a shit on all of it because peace with Iran went counter to their plans for the region.
SOURCE: I watched the interview clips myself on Al Jazeera and ABC News.
EDIT: I am searching for and sharing corroborating sources further below in this thread. I haven’t found clips of the exact broadcasts I watched yet, because they were live, but I am sharing other sources in the meantime.
Here’s an actual source to what Witkoff claims, to counter your unsubstantiated claim:
“We discussed with them ten years of no enrichment whatsoever, and we would pay for the fuel,” he said. “They rejected that, which told us at that very moment that they had no notion of doing anything other than retaining enrichment to the purpose of weaponizing.”
Witkoff said he and Kushner, who was tasked with brokering a deal with him, believed an agreement was likely unattainable by the end of the second meeting, but returned for a third round as a final effort.
“It was very clear it was going to be impossible, probably by the end of the second meeting, but then we went back to the third meeting just to give it the last college try,” he said. “They wanted us to report positivity,” Witkoff added. “It was not positive that meeting.”
Here’s an actual source to what Witkoff claims, to counter your unsubstantiated claim
Had you taken a moment to read the thread you would have found my comment where I am looking for and sharing items that back what I watched. Is Witkoff more believable than Trump and Rubio? I don’t know, but he sure is way smarter than both of them and unlikely to say stupid shit to the press without thought of optics and consequence.
I see now that you have found sources since I wrote my comment. I guess we have some conflicting reports.
I guess we have some conflicting reports.
Not surprising given the shit show that is this administration. I tend to believe Rubio and Trump’s initial comments, only because they seem like a mistake. Whitkoff and Kushner don’t seem like people that speak off the cuff…but that’s just my personal opinion.
I read A.I. Jazeera (as in artificial intelligence) and almost barfed of it being the source.
LOL. I’m in the “fuck A.I.” camp.
And you give the link?
Is it possible that Trump didn’t really want peace with Iran, and having Israel attack just gives us the perfect excuse to back away from peace with Iran, while allowing us to make Israel the scapegoat if the war doesn’t go the way we want it to?
Honestly, and I am in no way defending Trump with this, I think he’s too stupid and Netenyahu is too smart for that role reversal.
Trump is vain and I have no doubt that he wanted to be known as “the peace president”. If you watch the press conference that the GOP speaker gave, he noted “exquisite” intelligence, provided by Israel, that told the US that the time to act was now.
Personal Opinion: The Trump administration are incompetent and ill equipped for this type of diplomatic relationship (Israel). I think they got played like a fiddle by Israel.
Personal Opinion: The Trump administration are incompetent and ill equipped for this type of diplomatic relationship (Israel). I think they got played like a fiddle by Israel.
There is a lot of evidence to support that opinion (and not only in this current situation)
Please link it!
A link would be nice.
They were both during live broadcasts. One on Al Jazeera and another off of ABC News. I’ll try to find links to the specific moments. Hopefully they were clipped and posted on YouTube.
EDIT 1: I cannot find a YouTube clip of the Al Jazeera live broadcast in which they spoke to a representative of the meditation team, but this clip (early on) does include a close proximity to one of the concessions that the mediator said Iran had made. According to the mediator, Iran had agreed to not stockpile ANY enriched uranium. All they were asking was to be allowed to enrich enough for power generation, as needed. Had Trump accepted, this would have been a diplomatic achievement non other previous administration was able to get. Whether Iran were truthful or not is another question, but that’s not the point. I’ll look for the Trump clip next.
EDIT 2: I am still looking for the clip where Trump said that Israel told him that they were going to attack, with or without US assistance, which in turn forced the US to participate. I watched that in a live stream broadcast yesterday. Below is a brand new clip where a reporter asks Trump if Israel forced his hand, clearly alluding to that comment he made previously. His ego will not allow him to be perceived as Israel’s removed so in this clip he is fully contradicting what he said yesterday and what the GOP speaker said about Israeli intelligence being the deciding factor. This orange moron would rather be seen as an aggressor and war criminal than be perceived as anyone’s puppet. What a fucking moron.
EDIT 3: Still looking for a clip of the statements I saw Trump make, but below is a link pointing to Rubio saying the same.
A day earlier, Secretary of State Marco Rubio suggested the president decided to launch attacks on Iran because the US believed Israel was poised to take unilateral action.
EDIT 4: From the same thread linked in the previous edit.
Rubio told reporters that Iran posed an “imminent threat” because it was expected to retaliate to planned Israeli military action, which prompted the US military to strike first.
“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties,” Rubio said.
In questioning to Colby, Sen. Angus King said he believed Rubio “inadvertently told the truth here.”
“I think Secretary Rubio inadvertently told the truth here, that this was driven by Benjamin Netanyahu and here we are, in a major conflict,” the Maine independent lawmaker said. “Do you not agree that that seems to be the precipitating factor?”
Satire doesn’t work with this administration.
