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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43828737

Michelle Goldberg Feb. 27, 2026, 6:47 p.m. ET

https://archive.ph/kOzWb#selection-4499.0-4501.12

It’s been obvious for some time that Americans are souring on Israel, but a Gallup poll that came out on Friday marks a turning point. For the first time in the poll’s 25-year history, it found, more Americans sympathize with the Palestinians than with the Israelis. The shift wasn’t just among Democrats, whose opinion of Israel has been in free fall in recent years. According to Gallup, only 30 percent of independents now sympathize with Israel; 41 percent sympathize with the Palestinians. Among adults under 35, support for Israel has fallen to a record low of 23 percent. With numbers like this, bipartisan backing for Israel, long a constant in American politics, will in time become unsustainable.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel famously prides himself on his ability to shape American policy. As he said in a secretly recorded 2001 conversation, “I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction.” Yet he has presided over an ongoing collapse in American Zionism and could eventually go down in history as the prime minister who lost Israel’s most important ally.

  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
    117·
    2 months ago

    The US went to war after 9/11 and killed far more people.

    Yet Israel going to war after the massive attack on civilians wasn’t okay?

    I guarantee that if there was another massive attack on American civilians today (by anyone other than an American) they would gladly go after a country again.

    America, you’re currently being hypocrites.

    • brvslvrnst@lemmy.ml
      8·
      2 months ago

      Lol MF its always been a problem. We still haven’t answered for attempts at genocide in the north American continent, let alone abroad.

      The difference Israel is making is pushing an entire people for multiple generations to the brink to feel no option left but to fight back and then suddenly say “Oh geez, how terrible. Better flatten your entire civilian population.” Your argument here stinks of “but do you condemn Hamas” a full 2.5 years later and the blood of 10x the Palestinians and debunked reporting of what happened.

      Be better, yo.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          No. Palestine shouldn’t exist at this point. The people should be displaced to surrounding countries rather than killed, but Palestine cease to exist.

          Literally a fucking crime against humanity…

          And obviously still genocide

          The term “forcible transfer” describes the forced relocation of civilian populations as part of an organized offensive against that population. It is a crime against humanity punishable by the International Criminal Court (ICC). The fifth punishable act of genocide is the forcible transfer of children from one protected group to another. The definition was part of a draft provided by the UN Secretariat that was used as the foundation for the 1948-adopted Genocide Convention.

          https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/forcible_transfer

          • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
            14·
            2 months ago

            So is genocide, pick one.

            There isn’t a peaceful option remaining at this point. Anyone who thinks there is hasn’t been paying attention the last 80 years of history.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              So is genocide, pick one.

              Yes…

              I’m aware genocide is genocide, just like genocide is…

              What don’t you understand about the fact that you’re arguing for genocide?

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  2 months ago

                  Killing people, and displacing them are not the same. They may be both acts of “genocide” but they are not equally bad.

                  So to be clear:

                  1. You now understandstand that you were calling for an ongoing genocide, to genocide even more people.

                  2. That has not changed your opinion, and you still want more genocide?

                  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
                    14·
                    2 months ago

                    I want people to stop killing each other. If it means genocide (displacing people) to prevent more genocide (killing people) as a REALISTIC answer, then yes. That’s what I want to see happen.

                    Nobody else here giving any real answers other than wishful thinking.

                    Do you really believe, that if everyone stopped supporting Israel and they lost all basic ability to hurt anyone, all the groups that are attacking Israel are going to magically stop.

                    Do you actually think that’s what would happen?

                    If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

        • brvslvrnst@lemmy.ml
          2·
          2 months ago

          What the actual fuck are you on about. You are literally yada-ing the destruction of a people.

          • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
            13·
            2 months ago

            What completely peaceful solution is realistic?

            If people don’t get along, you separate them.

            Everyone whining about Israel just stopping is completely ignoring the fact that other people will keep attacking them.