I think it would be good for the community and people in the US to have ways to make sure they’re not creating relationships with ICE agents. If the community doesn’t want it all good. and obviously not meant to profile people.
- Obviously we know some names of agents who have murdered people: Jonathan Ross, Brian Palacios, Jesus Ochoa, Raymundo Gutierrez
- I presume they’d be pretty conservative and machismo. Maybe have some blue lives stickers on their truck.
- Maybe tattoos, specifically Punisher. Could be police also.
What else could you use to sniff out if somebody is ICE if they’re hiding it from you?
I think just getting to know someone and judging them based on who they are is a lot more important. Rather than trying to suss out someone’s group affiliations (like if they are part of ICE), why not simply pay attention to how they treat others and the kind of actions they take when faced with challenges? They will naturally show their embodied values and beliefs, and you can then make an informed decision on whether you want to associate with that person or not.
Essentially I think we should be judging people individually. Rather than trying to figure out what kind of person someone is based on their aesthetic choices like stickers or tattoos, see if they treat others with compassion. Everyone makes mistakes and does bad things sometimes, but the people worth sticking around usually recognize when they do, feel remorse, and work on it.
i learned this lesson recently. she had a no-ice, no-racism, no-homophobia, pro-choice sign on her establishments door and also had an isreali gay pride themed flag inside.
So I’m going to be downvoted for this because I always am and I am always shocked but when it comes to women’s rights and LGBTQ rights, I am easily on the side of Israel.
I can hate everything that is happening in Gaza to women and children by Israel and yet not want a Palestinian state if it’s going to be ruled by Hamas. And I’m dumbfounded by leftists and liberals who support them.
it’s called pinkwashing and you get downvotes because it’s a relatively well documented form of propaganda; which means that the only way anyone can still fall for it is if they’re willfully ignorant of the body work that proves its propaganda.
So you’d agree to “fuck the IDF and Hamas”?
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propaganda isn’t automatically false and you’re choosing to fall for this form of it (and very likely others); which is why you get downvotes.
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Even if all this was true (I don’t agree but besides the point), Israeli bombs still blow up women and lgbt people. Getting blown up and colonized is hardly progress.
ditto with our allies like saudi arabia
In case you’d like to date a racist moron but not one from ICE?
They might just seem like a regular conservative person
Just use basic observation. Do they speak in single syllable words? Do they start shaking whenever they see shades darker than white? Do they start salivating when they see boots?
Just ask them their thoughts on legal and illegal immigration . Its not that hard
that’s not a good litmus test because even moderates approve of legal; dissaprove of legal; and are still unware that neither matters in ice’s eyes.
most of their prison population comes from people who were trying to do it legally.
Also not a good litmus because anyone supporting the concept that immigration should be divided into categories of “legal” and “illegal” is implicitly supporting the idea of the existence of ICE and organizations like it.
I think you have just proved my point, you telling me that shows that you are a reasonable person, by not going one way and opening a point of discussion.
Yeah that’s a good point, the question itself leads to someone either revealing their whole ass, or showing that they are good people.
People can be anti-illegal immigration and be anti-ICE
If you let slip your opinion, they’re likely to vet themselves. May be risky in a workplace scenario, though.
i think there are likely easier ways to know if a coworker is working for ice
Do you support trump? That’s the only question I think I’d care about.
there are plenty of people who hate trump, but still believe things like gazan genocides and ice are the “cost of doing business”
Have you considered… Asking them? If they lie they lie and you’ll find out they’re a shit person (and know it) pretty shortly.
But yeah if you want to get psycho about it just follow them to work.
Suck their cock and see if it shoots blue shit out
Ask them if they’ve read Ammon Bundy’s piece about immigration, and ask them what they think of it. Keep in mind that Bundy is pretty far right in almost every way, but almost all of his right-wing militia buddies have abandoned him on this.
IMO he’s arrived at the right conclusion, but his reasons–because god–are nonsense. It’s going to be interesting to see how his worldview changes as he realizes that most of the people that he thought were True Believers like him were only allies of convenience.
Tons of joke answers and few actual answers, so here’s the opinion of an ex-cop:
What’s your aim? If it’s to identify ICE via speed dating or something to collect a list of local ICE agents, it’ll take weeks, months, or even years years to uncover what they do. ICE agents know quite a few people hate them, so they’re not going to wear their job on their sleeve. In that line of work it’s known as OPSEC. In my personal life, very few people know I was a cop. ICE is even less popular, so they’ll be even more tight about it. Best advice on this front is just keep your ears open for claims of being “taxi drivers,” “garbage collectors,” or other jokes cops often make to describe what they do.
If it’s to avoid dating/befriending ICE agents, all you need to do is let it be known that you hate ICE. Obviously your HR is going to come into the fray if you’re passing out “FUCK ICE” pamphlets, but feel free to get tattoos, bumper stickers, T-shirts, and whatever else you can get your hands on to express yourself, and I promise you ICE agents will avoid you like the plague, though they won’t outwardly state their reasons why.
I don’t want to hang out with people who hate me, you don’t want to hang out with people who hate you, and ICE agents don’t want to hang out with people who hate them. Not only is it unsafe, but it’s simply unpleasant.
Lots of good advice here. Just trying to get a feel for how people could avoid being tricked by an ICE agent.
Again, that angle is largely you seeking solutions to a problem that doesn’t exist; ICE agents aren’t trying to trick people in order to date/befriend them.
As I said, they don’t want anything to do with people who hate them.
That’s good. I could see them being desperate for affection though and lying to get what they want.
Unlikely. There are a lot of badge bunnies out there.
Never heard that one but totally. Same with military.
