What I don’t understand is, have these people never heard of OAuth? I don’t know what it is, we have decades of this and people act like it doesn’t exist and don’t see the value in it. Even Lemmy, try to suggest why it might be valuable to separate identity versus community hosting, it’s like you have to walk people through it step by step.
There’s no way I’m giving platforms like this even more private information, but if governments put forth both publicly available OAuth servers along with the possibility of privately purchasable OAuth servers for this sort of thing, I would have no problem with it because then you have the possibility of vetting age authenticators like you would VPN providers, and the data would never leak into the social networks that abuse it. It’s like the regulators and the Internet has conveniently forgotten about OAuth and certificate authorities and has just said, “Yeah, let’s just have users leak their data all over for this” as if there were no better way. Maybe that’s the point, because I suspect organizations like Palantir will be quite happy at things like this.
They have and they don’t want it because it doesn’t give them access to everyone’s biometric data.
I could see this coming a long way off with Discord. It’s a honey trap. They swallow entire communities whole like some gargantuan leviathan of antiquity.
Discord was always an overhyped crap.
I only have the app because a handful of people have asked to add me on it. I can’t recall the last time I actually opened it, let alone used it to talk to someone. Actually, I think the last time I used it was not for socializing, but to get support for a game mod. (For some reason, instead of having an FAQ page, the creator directed people to their Discord. I feel like that’s more annoying for the creator, answering the same questions individually over and over again instead of just having a webpage that users can read and find their own answers on. But, okay, if you wish.)
Totally not worth the privacy invasion. Brb gonna take two seconds and delete the app from my phone.
Edit: it is done
Discords about to lose a lot of users
Frankly it should be illegal.
Not just “never required.” Explicitly disallowed.
You’re right, but some governments are forcing it too.
Read: Discord is de-anonymizing all users.
Leeeave.
I know Element sucks compared to Discord but with more users and potential funding interest from that user base growth, it can get a lot better and snowball to fast improvements. Blender was the butt of jokes until version 2.8. Like 15 years of being easily dismissed as major commercial production worthy. Element can get better. It’s the story of pretty much all the well regarded general consumer targeted open source software we use today
I feel like Matrix already hit the “elbow point” where it’s getting good fast. It’s very usable, I have ~10 contacts I regularly communicate with on Matrix.
It’s for everyone who wants to access adult content or get messages from people they might not know, according to their release.
Which includes many of the wargaming, traditional art, and queer Discord servers my partner and I use. Never assume that when a bad actor says “adult content” they mean hardcore porn and snuff, they mean everything that doesn’t conform to their ideal christofascist ethnostate purity. And now they have a list of all the “dangerous” nonconformists while blocking everyone else from being exposed to “dangerous” ideas. This should chill people to the bone. Nobody should be okay with this anywhere, in any capacity, in any quantity, whatsoever.
Who doesnt love getting spearphisted by all these random girls on discord that send friend requests without ever talking to you?!
Don’t worry, this will still happen, they’ll just use stolen IDs from previous fishing victims, or from the database of 70,000 that Discord already had breached.
Yeah, it’s the part of this that seems like a benefit. “Oh, sorry, I didn’t verify my age so I can’t get spammed by direct message.”
So, if I am not looking for adult content, and could not care less about getting PMs from people I don’t know, I don’t need to sub to this privacy nightmare?
Discord is still a privacy nightmare regardless, but at least they won’t require your ID by default.
That’s the way I read it
Anyone know if Stoat is a worthwhile alternative?
Its kinda buggy, but has 95% of discord functionality without the bullshit
Cool. Once they get the verification emails going again I’ll check it out. Discord has been causing GPU crashes for me lately, hopefully stoat doesn’t.
I had problems with the desktop app fyi. But i run multiple accounts across many services so i recently started using Ferdium, which runs web apps in containerized sandboxes. Its very useful for managing multiple accounts on the same service. Ferdium also has the option to work completely locally with no account needed. It is very nice.
But discord is buggy as fuck…
Are there any alternatives that have screensharing
Matrix (Element Call specifically)
Signal
and thats about it.
I wonder if it will be fooled by images of Norman Reedus in Death Stranding 2 🤔
Matrix/Element is p good these days
