That’s what you’re complaining about? You guys are fucking lucky that people aren’t just walking up to you and shooting you in the head. They aren’t human.
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It was more offensive than it is now?
It’s offensive?
Generally yes, mostly in rhetoric. It made me wonder what they said before they toned it down as it must have been quite spicy.
What’s offensive? I honestly don’t understand?
It is if you sympathize with fascists.
Fuck ICE, but stop saying they aren’t human. For one thing, their cruelty and depravity should stand as a reminder of what the worst of humanity is capable of. But more than that, dehumanization of one’s enemy is the first step toward radicalism. How else do you think they came to have their own terrible views?
They weren’t born like this. They were made this way.
I agree. The complacent myth that the Nazis were subhuman monsters and not people like us is part of what got us this resurgence of fascism. We need to admit that the worst people are more like us than we’re comfortable with.
I don’t approve of that kind of rhetoric as a general rule, but conflating calling someone inhuman for their cruel actions with calling someone inhuman for their perceived racial inferiority is incredibly disingenuous.
Is it though? One seems more morally justifiable on the surface, but both have the same end result of reducing someone to subhuman status. And that reasoning is almost exclusively used to justify treating people like subhumans.
I’m just saying, we can fight and denounce ICE without adopting their rhetoric and dehumanizing ideals.
Treating someone as subhuman is a wholly separate action from calling someone’s actions inhuman. They are not mutually exclusive. I just simply can’t agree that calling someone inhuman for their oppressive actions towards another human being is anywhere near the same level as calling someone inhuman for simply existing. I won’t do either, but I’m not going to judge someone for doing the former, only the latter.
Treating someone as subhuman is a wholly separate action from calling someone’s actions inhuman.
Yes, but one definitely leads to the other. The rhetoric informs the action; if one hears something enough times, they may eventually begin to believe it’s true.
I just simply can’t agree that calling someone inhuman for their oppressive actions towards another human being is anywhere near the same level as calling someone inhuman for simply existing.
Fair enough, we seem to agree on the larger issue here so I won’t force the argument. But perhaps you can at least agree that calling those oppressive actions inhuman is directly denying the fact that humans are perfectly capable of such great evils. Which, evidently, they are.
One CAN lead to the other, its not a foregone conclusion though. I think more often than not calling heinous actions inhuman is more a coping mechanism than anything, because you’d have to be a braindead moron to literally believe there aren’t humans behind those atrocities.
Well this begs the question of whether or not radical actions are required at a certain point and where that point actually is. Surely complacency only gets more necks stepped on.
I’m not suggesting complacency; quite the opposite in fact. Rage against tyranny and do everything you can to push the fascists out of power. But never forget that you could have been one of them, had your circumstances been different. And never let yourself become their mirror image, because rhetoric like “they aren’t human” is exactly how you get there.
They weren’t born like this. They were made this way.
And they can be made normal again
Something I struggle with is the fact most murderous Nazis went on to live normal, productive lives
Nuremberg Trials only prosecuted a relatively small number of top ranking Nazis. Many who weren’t prosecuted were fervent supporters that killed for the party. Then after the war they went on to reintegrate with society
They lived as bakers, teachers, etc., as law-abiding citizens
It’s hard to wrap my head around the fact people could spend a decade willing to commit atrocities. Willing to murder someone simply for their religion/ethnicity. Then they just soend the next couple decades baking bread like a normal person
I’m not saying anything is right or wrong with how that was handled. Just something I’ve been thinking about
I am merely doing unto them what they have been doing unto us. The saying is “do unto others as you would have done unto you.” I’m merely doing that, but from reverse.
dehumanization of one’s enemy is the first step toward radicalism.
Systematically exterminating the cockroaches that is ICE and Republicans might be how we get out of this pit.
I am merely doing unto them what they have been doing unto us
That’s exactly the type of things I hear from ICE and their supporters
Treating the other side as inhuman is a necessity for commutting atrocities
Treating the other side as inhuman is a necessity for commutting atrocities
Fundamentalists are the historical perpetrators of all atrocities: the crusades, witch hunts, slavery, Nazi shit. Maybe it’s time to do unto them what they have done unto us.
Let it persist beyond their assignment.
They should feel unwelcome everywhere. Forever.
Aww, is the Gestapo getting their feefees hurt?
No, they’re getting their peepees hurt.
Shitheads should speak with nurses like Pretti about how long they must go without taking a piss.
Such pansies.
How about this: the general public treats ICE as well as they treat their worst-abused prisoner. Deal?
Deal! I’ll take your entire stock!
Let the children out of the cages you fucking scumbags and then maybe you can piss in each others mouths
Waaah! Somebody’s gotta wear a diaper. Waaah!
They wanna larp like marines anyways, might as well go all in and give them the adult diapers too.
They want to be “at war” with citizens, yet still demand citizens treat them like the social contract is intact
It’s common with fascists, because basic shit like this does have an effect on the jackboots.
When an agent moved to detain the person who spit on him, the crowd tackled and attacked the agents while surrounding them.
heroes
Nazis are like vampires you never invite them in
If the police weren’t so buddy buddy with them, I’d say follow them around. The second they piss in a corner, get them for public urination. If it were on school grounds or close by? (don’t remember if there’s a distance cutoff) you could have them in the sex offender registry, which tracks them and is fully public.
ETA: The ones who aren’t already on that list
That’s a lame excuse for pissing yourself from the slightest resistance from someone you can’t just shoot anymore. Do like your boss and get a diaper if you can’t cope via other means.
Welcome to the reality of your existence ICEholes. We don’t support you and need you to go back to your proud boi/KKK hole and continue to degrade.
It must be a sobering reality thinking what you’re doing is lawful and the population is on your side, and then you have people on the street screaming slurs at you, hotels are kicking you out, and businesses won’t let you take a shit.
Nah, Most of them are always the victim, never the victimizer. They cannot conceive of being the bad guy. The ones that do are scorned to silence by the ones that have no ability to see themselves as wrong. Those are the people that feel anything they do is justified and are capable of horrors.
They need to tell ICE to KYS. Actually do something helpful.
Do they let the immigrant children they ship off take breaks?
No. They have a known and documented history of putting people in deplorable conditions on ships. So, why would they do anything different now?
