In a heated interview with CNN‘s Dana Bash on Sunday, Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino said his agents were the real “victims” in the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis protestor.

Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old Veterans Affairs nurse, was killed by Border Patrol agents on Saturday. In videos of the deadly altercation between Pretti and several agents, he can be seen placing himself between an agent and several women that he was shoving. Pretti is sprayed with a chemical irritant and then wrestled to the ground, where one agent repeatedly hit him in the head with the irritant’s metal canister. Pretti, who was legally carrying a firearm, was fatally shot by agents while on the ground.

DHS immediately painted Pretti as a threat, saying that officers feared for their lives because Pretti was legally carrying a firearm. Multiple videos of the shooting contradicted the official line that Pretti was threatening agents. On Sunday, Bash pressed Bovino for evidence “that he was intending to massacre law enforcement.”

When Bash repeatedly asserted Pretti’s right to carry his firearm, Bovino made the bold claim that Pretti forfeited his Second Amendment rights via his actions.

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    The fascist will say anything, regardless of reality, logic, or even internal consistency, to advance his self interested power grab and all of the violence it requires. He has no moral code and no allegiance to law. He cannot be reasoned with doesn’t deserve that kind of deference. Once he achieves control, he cannot be voted out of power.

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    At this point I think it’s pretty safe to conclude that when the right-wing 2A guys argue that 2A is inviolable/shall not be infringed, they mean it only in the context of service to right-wing politics, not that it’s a right that applies to anyone else. In other words, they support the notion of privilege, not rights.

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      My dad has always said it’d be the Republicans who would take guns.

      They’re working for it.

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        California’s gun-control culture started with a 1967 law (Mulford Act) designed to outlaw carrying loaded guns. It was specifically written to keep the Black Panthers from patroling their neighborhoods with loaded firearms.

        It was signed into law by Ronald Reagan.

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      Of course they support the notion of privilege. They are all about privilege and anti-egalitarianism.

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    The NRA and right wing gun culture has convinced a generation that the 2A is about your right to own a gun.

    The 2A is explicitly about your right to organize members of your community in order to defend your community, the fact that you need weapons for that means that you must also have the right to own weapons.

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      It also explicitly says “right of the people to keep and bear Arms”. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.

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      That is the rhetoric the regressives have used incessantly to defend their rights to firearms. Now that the KKK and proud bois have been given guns and federal authority suddenly those rules don’t apply anymore.

      Who couldn’t have seen this coming other than most of us. The people I work with are 90% non white. They don’t think this will apply to them. They don’t like me talking about it. They think they can just keep their head down and someone else will take care of it.

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      I mean, it’s Charlie Kirk, but still, what a stupid thing to put in the Constitution if it’s for that reason. What about a plebiscite to kick out some rogue government? Nah, let’s give guns to the people so they can make a Civil War whenever they feel like it.

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    Cool. Do I get to decide which rights apply to Bovino and his bullshit army now? What he’s doing doesn’t sound much like “…support[ing] and defend[ing] the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” or “…bear[ing] true faith and allegiance to the same…” so his actions ought to have consequences too.

    Before the reply: No, I will not elaborate, fed.

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    I am a lifelong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, but not a single issue voter. So no one can really place me politically.

    What bothers me most is fellow gun enthusiasts (cough republican gun nuts)… always say its a “God given right”…

    these events are going to be a brain melting contraction to their beliefs that the GOP supports them and that the 2A is immutable.

    The GOP did a great job of convincing the feeble minded that they are their supporters and guns are their greatest political topic to rally behind… Now trump is having a come to jesus moment for the party, as his DHS, FBI, and others in his administration are saying they will kill you if you have guns around them

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      The idea of “god given rights” has never been true. Humans have always had to fight for every right they have ever had, and it takes away power from those rights to insinuate they were given to us by some magic sky man.

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    This administration is playing with fire by trying to blame this on the gun that the man was legally carrying and licensed to own.

    The 2A people in MAGA are not happy, there’s a little civil war brewing in r/conservative between the bots and the 2A supporters.

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        Go look, the amount of people who are against this is equal to or outnumbering the ones trying spin.

        This ‘he had a gun’ angle is not going to cut it.

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          It took an innocent white man with a gun getting merc’d for the alarm to sound on these folk. Whatever it takes I guess, but that’s a sad lot considering all the rights violations and death toll prior.

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            It’s sad, certainly, but I’ll hold my tongue if it means gaining more allies to oppose this violence.

            We can get back to fighting about domestic and social issues once we make sure that we still have a functioning democracy, none of the other differences matter if that doesn’t happen.

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      Well and isn’t that just what they accused the left (and the center) of doing? Full disclosure, I am a gun owning slightly left of center.

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        Yes. But the left never wanted your guns. Just sensible laws. The right will now have to take your guns because they don’t want anyone forming a militia.

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    Man, I wonder if the second amendment set is finally realizing the right has always wanted your guns more than the left.

    Or did we forget “take the guns first”?