A new, disturbing detail in the “drug boat” controversy that has enveloped Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth over the past week calls the purpose of the entire operation into question.

According to an exclusive report from CNN, the alleged narco-trafficking boat that the U.S. military targeted on September 2 in a “double tap” strike, which killed 11 people, wasn’t even heading to the U.S.

Navy Admiral Frank “Mitch” Bradley, who was in charge of the operation, reported to lawmakers that the boat they struck was actually en route to link up with a larger boat that was heading to Suriname, a country east of Venezuela, two sources with direct knowledge of his remarks said.

Bradley also said that it was still possible that the alleged drug shipment could have eventually ended up in the U.S., the sources told CNN—rather dubious justification for a strike that left several people dead.

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    Do people realize how much drugs are brought into the US everyday? These small boats wouldn’t even be able to supply a small city. This is a complete joke. War on Drugs theatre.

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      Well they are claiming it’s Fentanyl, which is obviously a lie… But if it were then even just 1 kilo could fuel a city for a while. Assuming a 2mg dose, which is literally overkill for people without a tolerance, you would get 500K doses.

      This is why the war on drugs is completely lost now. Any person could smuggle like 10G in their butt or shoe and would have like 5000 doses, equivalent of like 25k minimum street value. None of this coming by speedboat, it’s too easy to just hide in commerce.

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        A rough estimate for cocaine use alone would be anywhere from 4,000-12,000 pounds a day for illicit US use. It is a staggering amount of drugs that need to be made or imported for US citizens.

        They also need to send several more times than this to keep supply flowing because of interdiction, waste, and shrinkage. So we are talking about 100,000-250,000 pounds of all illicit drugs every single day.

        The War On Drugs was unbelievable success for it’s true intentions. A lot of people don’t understand that it was really a war on minorities. At best it was a political tool to suppress the public and at worst it was a multigenerational genocide.

        Instead of giving people the hope and tools for a better future, our government used it to strip our rights, normalize police militarization, destroys countless families, and let people die from overdoses needlessly.

        The loss of life is staggering. The dramatic drop in quality of life is mind boggling. The reparations the government would owe if this reality would reach the masses would be easily a hundred trillion dollars if you also count the destruction in Mexico and South America.

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          Do you have some sources for your data? Not that I don’t believe you, it’s just really hard to find drug statistics without wading through pages and pages of drug recovery program links in a Google search.

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            I did some basic research and made some assumptions. 1-2 million cocaine users that self identify. More likely 10-20 million users with a lot of those being casual take it or leave it users. Probably just under a million chronic users.

            So let’s let’s say about million grams a day over a million users. That is about two tons. I think this is probably an underestimate, honestly.

            Obviously my methodology is not great, just rough guesses based upon the best information.

            https://www.samhsa.gov/data

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    Don’t try to prompt critical thinking in the US with your facts. If those citizens could read, they would be very upset.

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    It’s quite obvious by now that the US military will not decline following illegal orders. That’s what led to most atrocities committed by German troops in WW2. The free world must get ready to ally and invade the US to prevent further escalation.

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      I wouldn’t say it is obvious they won’t decline. This particular event could sway it significantly. If they end up throwing the admiral under the bus, I would bet people would think more about illegal orders in the future.

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        Does that seem likely to you? I guess it depends on the outcome of the probes by both congress and senate, but it doesn’t seem likely to me that anything will come out of them. If even it did, he would still have to be found guilty by a military court I think. Unless all the strikes are declared illegal due to the US not being at war in which case it could go to a civil court, as far as I understand. That would mean the administration admits that the whole campaign had no legal ground though, which I don’t see happening. Plus the supreme court seemingly being completely corrupted as well…

        Obviously what I wrote above is completely impossible, there’s no way to invade the US. And by free world I certainly don’t mean Russia or China either, so no chance. This can only be resolved from within the US. I hope it will, but at the moment it looks grim.

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    The USA now has death penalty just for being suspected of a crime without evidence.
    USA is a rogue nation.

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      Did you forget decades of drone strikes with highlights such as blowing up a civilian wedding?

      You are not wrong, just a couple hundred years late to the party.

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    Aren’t these all small boats anyway? Like boats that are too small to carry that much fuel? I thought this was established already.

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    Something gives me the impression that Trump thinks extra-judicial is a type of bubblegum.

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    These boats would have had to refuel multiple times during the trip, this has been obvious all along