The answer to how Trump has succeeded is really simple: He lies nonstop, and lying works. Sure, there are other factors in play—he tapped into and intensified a certain strain of profound proletarian resentment of liberal elites, and … well, that’s about it. But mostly, it’s the lies.
…And, to reiterate, Trump tells many such lies a day. He talks to the press two or three times a day most days, which probably adds up to what, 45 minutes, an hour? Spitballing it at one lie every two minutes, which may well be low, that’s around 25 factual lies a day.
Wishful thinking.
Finally? The guy that phoned in to a newspaper pretending to be his own publicist in the 80s?
I’m getting tired of saying this: no the fuck they aren’t. Trump’s approval rating is at 41% today, which is higher than it was a couple weeks ago.
Everybody keeps saying, this, this latest shenanigan will be the one that finally wakes America up so they can somehow end this. And it never is. The camel’s back is vibranium.
Dumbasses so desperate for just a small hit of copium. You think that over the course of the last fucking decade, something would have sunk in for idiots to realize they’re being fed horseshit, but no. They’ll keep believing the house of cards is totally going to fall down any day now because they read some bullshit tweet and are too fucking stupid to look up facts for themselves.
I dislike the unintentional association of “America” being those who support trump. America is not a trump supporter. 32% of the voting population does not constitute “America.” The majority of voters did not vote for trump.
The majority of voters did not vote AGAINST Trump.
The majority of voters did not vote for trump. No idea what point you’re trying to make.
The point I’m making is exactly what I wrote. The majority of voters either voted for Trump, OR looked at Trump - a verifiably incompetent lunatic who’d had one term already and fucked everything up - and said “Meh… whatever happens, happens”. They did NOT vote to keep him out.
Again. The MAJORITY of voters did NOT vote for trump. Read what I wrote. You are wrong. As for “not voting against trump”, that’s the same as not voting to keep the sky blue. You can’t prove a negative.
I never said they voted FOR Trump. Read what I wrote. Not making a choice is itself a choice. 77.3M voted for Trump. 75M voted for Harris. 89.2M stuck their thumbs up their asses and didn’t express an opinion. 77.3M + 89.2M is a majority. I don’t care if it was malevolence, negligence, indifference or apathy. It was abundantly clear that Trump was going to do bad things. They either thought those bad things were going to be good, or they didn’t think the bad things would happen to them.
When evil triumphs don’t try to plead the morality of “good men who did nothing”.
Most Americans did not vote for Trump.
Here’s how it works: US Population, adult over 18: ~250 million.
Of that population, ~244 million are eligible to vote.
Of eligible voters, only 63.9% voted.
Of the 63.9%, less than half, 49.8%, went to Trump.
To re-emphasize that point, Trump did not get more than 50%.
As far as not voting against trump being a vote for trump, I’m not going to entertain that at all. Might as well say they were for Putin to be president, the flying spaghetti monster to be president, whatever.
Putin wasn’t on the ballot. FSM wasn’t on the ballot. Harris and Trump were on the ballot, and the US has a first-past-the-post electoral system (to its demerit) and like it or not if you didn’t endorse the loser you implicitly endorsed the winner. It’s zero-sum. That’s how it works. Trump now represents you, the entirety of the US of A, whether you like it or not.
People who shout “it’s not my fault, I didn’t vote!” are just trying to abdicate their responsibility and excuse their pathetic passivity. Nobody gives a shit.
“I didn’t drown that little girl in the pool. I stood there and watched her drown, but I didn’t drown her. How dare you imply I’m culpable?”
majority of voters did not vote for trump.
A vote for none is still a vote. And it means that you’re ok with either option.
So can you guys fuck off with that whole bullshit.
The majority of Americans were supportive of a second trump presidency.
If they weren’t, they would have done something about it.
A vote for none is still a vote.
No it isn’t. what a ridiculous concept. Then everyone who didn’t vote voted for Harris, and therefore the country voted for Harris.
The majority of Americans were supportive of a second trump presidency.
Buddy, keep jerkin’ yourself off with that if it makes you feel better. I can tell you’ve looked at zero polls and voting numbers because you’re just making shit up.
A non-vote is still a vote.
That’s how democracy works.
Then everyone who didn’t vote voted for Harris, and therefore the country voted for Harris.
You are so close to getting it.
By not voting they are saying that either option works for them.
I’ll try and frame this differently for you.
If you’re at work and the bosses come up to your department or whatever. And say “we are organising a meal out for everyone, we’ll let you guys vote and decide”
It doesn’t matter what voting system, how many options, or how many votes a person gets. Not voting still counts.
During discussions to decide on the short list. Non-participation counts.
If it comes down to two choices. Pizza or Chinese, if you are ok with either option, and neither draws you better than the other. Then you would vote for neither.
You ever see voting results for bringing laws in. Those in favour are counted, those against are counted, and those abstained are counted.
Because a non-vote is still a vote.
Buddy, keep jerkin’ yourself off with that if it makes you feel better. I can tell you’ve looked at zero polls and voting numbers because you’re just making shit up.
Genuinely have no clue what you’re on about here. But I guess you’re insinuating something, something way off base. But Trump won the popular vote, of everyone who voted. The majority picked trump.
If the majority of people were against trump, he wouldn’t have won the popular vote. They would have gone out to vote.
“Hey, libtards, you keep saying Donald Trump is dumb, but if he’s so dumb, how come he got elected president twice?"
Because his level of ignorance makes him relatable to voters who also don’t know anything. 🤔
This is the same thing that keeps getting people like Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, MTG, and Boebert elected.
“They don’t know anything! They’re just like me!”
Kakistocracy
Doubt
Everyday I’m amazed at the stupidity of the people surrounding me. It was always obvious
This. I remember people that I know who lived through the 80s and knew this fraud for the loudmouthed failson that he was back then still turn around and vote for him anyway, because, well, they had no choice.
What are they going to do, vote for a Democrat? Never mind a female one?
I really don’t want a war but I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on the pedofile worshipping Nazis in one because they are Nazis and the German Nazis believed stupid q anon shit too. Is there a way out of this without a war?
When we say America, hopefully, here in Europe, we’re mainly thinking about up to 50% of the voting population. The great majority are not the loud morons
I’d still rub it in on a tRump voter. They complain to me about losing Medicaid? I’d ask, “why are you so upset? This is what you voted for.”
Surely they’ll get it this time.
I remember hoping he would be enough for America to get corporate money out of government. It doesn’t look like we’re even close to it, and that it will something way worse for America to get there.
I remember hoping he would be enough for America to get corporate money out of government.
you really fell for that?
a man who’s bankrupted himself multiple times and failed at casinos, you think someone like that is going to ‘get corporate money out of government’?
I mean it’s easy with hindsight, we all made silly fucking assumptions. I assumed that after toying with this idiocy that we’d elect clinton, suck it up, and drive on with a democracy, because tho there’s a huge racist streak in america, no one would vote that cynically in the face of utter incompetence and stupidity.
silly fucking assumptions.
No, not that he would get corporate money out of govt, fucking hell no. Just that he would be bad enough for American government to realize that “well, we can’t let that happen again” and get corruption out of our system. Similar to how Germany stopped corruption after Hitler. And for like 14 months before Oct 7th, there were constant protest in Tel Aviv over Bibi’s corruption, I hope that as soon as possible, Israel also ends their corruption in government. But I’m really seeing now that it will have to get way worse than Trump for corruption to end in America.
Just that he would be bad enough for American government to realize that “well, we can’t let that happen again” and get corruption out of our system.
valid. I thought, on j6, “well thank goodness this is the end of him”… because no country in their right mind would let that shit pass.
and here we are. fuck.
This era of American politics will be studied for centuries. Like the fall of Rome. I’m sure that after he’s gone the truth will come out about who was really driving. His coddling of Russia in the context of Republican history is the biggest red flag. Especially when you take into account his penchant for money (bitcoin rug pull, Qatari Force One etc etc)
This era of American politics will be studied for centuries.
well put. I was wondering the other day - will any of them see consequences? I just couldn’t decide if it was generations away, or five years away.
and yeah, russia looms over every aspect of his 45/47 shitshow. meetings without translators (!), fucking ukraine over, past visits to moscow, parnas, the NRA, it’s like: yeah, we get it. he’s compromised. very compromised. then he stashes nuclear secrets in his fucking guest bathroom.
like, any single one of these should DOOM a presidency into infamy and wreck the party that rode it in, but…
$. and a spineless congress, and a bought and paid for supreme court, + citizens united = we’re fucked and no lube is on the horizon
The fuck took so long?
