Party sticks to its guns on healthcare and says it’s willing to hold out – much to the delight of its progressive supporters

When he sat down to talk about the US government shutdown with reporters from a closely read political newsletter this week, Chuck Schumer sounded as if he was relishing his standoff with the Republicans.

“Every day gets better for us,” he told Punchbowl News. As the shutdown got under way, Schumer explained, the Republican part believed that Democrats would quickly fold and vote to reopen the government, but instead they had stuck to their guns for a week and a half, demanding an array of concessions on healthcare and other issues.

Outrage followed from Republicans, who printed out the Senate minority leader’s remark on posters and condemned it before press conferences. The shutdown has prompted federal agencies to close or curtail operations nationwide, and forced hundreds of thousands of employees to stay home without immediate pay. Schumer, Republicans argued, was being callous.

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    “What Chuck Schumer is doing right now, it’s sickening.”

    Who was it that called a recess early and hasn’t backed down on ACA subsidies?

    I must have Mike confused with Chuck.

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    “Democrats are being callous” against federal workers, they say, as their King fires a third of them and asks if he can NOT pay them when the shutdown ends.

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    Just for clarity, if every single R votes yes and every D voted no, would the budget pass? Of does it require a larger majority that the GOP doesn’t have?

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      The GOP has 53 senators. Under current Senate procedural rules, they need 60 votes to pass a budget.

      Having said that, they only need 50 votes to change Senate procedural rules. However, for reasons I do not comprehend, Senators from both bodies have been surprisingly resistant to the idea of removing or adding exemptions to the 60 vote requirement.

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        Because simple majority would swing back the other way in no time and there would be little the current majority party could do. Every two years it’s likely to change these days

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      Obviously it requires a larger majority, otherwise they wouldn’t be in this situation. I think it requires 60%

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        I wouldn’t say “obviously” because I wouldn’t put it past the GOP to just have some refuse to vote along just to blame their opponents for the fallout, especially when they wanted that fallout in the first place.

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    “You mean… We dont have to do anything, and people are supportive about it? Wow!” -Democrats, probably.

    Don’t get me wrong, I want them to keep holding fast, but I just think its funny.

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    GOP cut billionaire tax and now say they can’t afford healthcare and shut government over it. Dems just watching and owe nothing.

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    It doesn’t matter what happens at this point- democracy is eroding under both parties, the left wing will have a swift and decisive backlash in 28’, thus emboldening the remaining maggots. Centralization and authoritarianism will rule the day. Even if it’s under a slightly more benevolent and less cankled orange donut.

    Viva la revolucion. Step one is federated speech, or freedom of speech. Free of economic bastardization or undue censorship. Embolden the wise and free their musings.

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    I have not allowed myself to feel proud or hopeful as I know that, at any moment, they will give the fascists everything they want and all of this will have been for nothing.

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    So now fighting over Obamacare that was not really public health insurance but a scam designed to sell more insurance for private insurance companies

    Both parties are just keeping our country hostage at the whims of the owner class now

    Fuck this horseshit can no one see that neither party gives any shits about any of us

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      People love to forget what we ended up with was a more conservative version of Mitt Romney’s plan.

      All those fucking “moderates” said we had to start small and improve it. And over 15 years later no improvements have happened and we might lose what little we had.

      Dems had a majority for 2 years with Biden, but the neoliberals still controlled the DNC and the purse strings, so nothing happened.

      They no longer have the DNC, so we got a shot at actually fixing shit next time.

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        walz teamed up with trump to end the protests of pipelines and that construction means poorer health for all of us and future generation on the whole planet we currently have no way to fix or to leave

        and that is just one very recent example but at least one side likes blue and uses different letters am right?

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          One (unsourced) example doesn’t disprove the extremely obvious night and day difference that your trump campaigning seeks to erase. I have to start blocking every person like you for my own mental health. It’s disgusting what you’re doing

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        and that is how we ended up here

        football politics

        ‘both sides are not the same and my team with their combination of letters and colors dominates your bad team voting yay my side won we have freedom who needs facts’ red or blue maga attitude has ruined this country

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          Yes indeed we ended up in fascism because of lazy fucks who don’t care to see the difference in coordinated active harm and a mix of good bad and neutral

          Every both sideser is either extraordinarily lazy or a closeted right winger

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            or have been burned every four years by the ‘not’ same party democrats who go to bed with republicans while shouting they’re on our side

            our laws and policies and who is writing our politicians checks say otherwise to the ‘both sides are not the same argument’

            this years dnc had protesters wanting end to war, have living wages, healthcare, ecetera forced to be outside the building begging to be heard while republicans were allowed in along with celebrities for fun filled night of celebrations for their collaborations

            how loud does something need to be to be considered noise?